why do women worry about parts of their appearance that no one cares about, that are hard to change, while ignoring the things men do care about that ...

why do women worry about parts of their appearance that no one cares about, that are hard to change, while ignoring the things men do care about that they can change?

Sometimes I go on reddit and read what women actually find attractive in themselves and men. I will say that it has helped me some because it has made me realize that model level men and women feel their ugly.

But I often see women that hate their noses, hate their chins, want smaller tits, etc, but they never talk about losing weight or getting in shape. I even saw one about Abbey asking if guys just care about tit size, saying Abbey was ugly.

Women really don't get it. If we can be honest for a second and not talk in memes, men don't really care about noses and chins on women. Its literally all about the hip to waist ratio. Thats it.

People are paying to have their noses broken and plastic put in their chin when all they would really have to do is lose weight.

Why are women like this?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cancer aids moron gay ballsack garden gnome destroyer.

    Just date men since you hate women

    didn't read your post btw lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dude, I want women to stop getting plastic surgery and to instead lose weight and work out. How do I hate women?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Women are vain beings. Plastic surgery is a vain pursuit. Hating plastic surgery means you hate women. Not hard to follow

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a chud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did she get plastic surgery?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Did she get plastic surgery?

          not to my knowledge. Sounds like mia khalifa did in 2020 or 21 though :/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >dude
        You're a fed

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    seriously, no one rejected mia for her nose

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ass so good his face glitches out of this reality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sauce me senpai

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that supossed to be Ben Shapiro or Nick Fuentes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Dain smiled slightly. “There is a way of testing them,” he said. “They cannot hold one shape for longer than three full days. If you observe a Grade Two Ol, and never let it out of your sight, there will come a moment when it loses control and its shape begins to change and waver. We call this moment the Tremor. It does not last long. In seconds the Ol has regained control. But by that time, you know it for what it is.”
      I was warned of this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Based and Deltora-pilled

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe you can help
          I am working on the idea that each of the Guardians represents one of the seven sins, and the gems are the antidote to that sin
          Gorl / envy / faith
          Soldeen / wrath / happiness
          Reeah / pride / hope
          Shifting Sands / greed / fortune
          Gellick / gluttony / honour
          Glus / sloth / truth
          Fardeep / lust / strength
          But I'm not sure about Fardeep and Reeah, because Valley of the Lost specifically mentions pride as being Fardeep's downfall, and hope seems to suit lust and strength pride better than the other way around. On the other hand, the diamond's description also mentions innocence and purity, and Reeah is certainly proud to the point of hubris. Perhaps lust has been changed to hate?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that is a man, isnt it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a deepfake of some onlyfans whore

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fuck I desperately want to spend my time licking a girls ass and pussy
      I would literally sit there and lick it all night

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm extremely anti-Semitic but I'd convert for her bros....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      impregnate her than leave for dubaiAFTER THE BABY IS BORN, convert to islam and youtube hate the joos all day long

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Surgery requires no effort, losing weight and working out does.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Surgery requires no effort, losing weight and working out does.

      why not just get the fat taken out of the middle and put into their ass and hips then? Would it really kill them to admit that it isn't their face but all their fat being in the wrong places?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bro...
        That's exactly what a Brazilian butt lift is

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >get the fat taken out of the middle and put into their ass and hips then
        This is a common procedure nowadays.
        But guess what? The bitches don't learn how to control their eating and just get fat again.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    moron just get laid please

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women are really dumb and consistently act against their own self interests
    Example
    >woman: yeah I've been scared and threatened so many times I walk holding my keys in my fingers and always tell a girlfriend where I'm going and what time I'll be back because as a woman I'm in constant danger from evil men
    >same woman: guns need to be banned, nobody should own a gun!
    I've been trying to find the universal theme underlying their retardedness and I think it's something to do with avoiding taking responsibility but it's tough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >think it's something to do with avoiding taking responsibility but it's tough

      hhmm. It might not be so much that they want to avoid responsibility as they are not wired to have responsibility and are instead wired to get others to act on their behalf.

      if you watch media aimed at men and women, male media tends to have a hero or heros that get what they want via their own actions. While woman media tends to have a main character build relationships and they get what they want via those relationships.

      which makes sense. They've only had freedom for so long. 2000 years ago they had to talk their husbands and sons into doing shit to get anything they wanted.

      BUT this doesn't explain why women obess over having half their nose removed when they could just get in shape and improve their hip to waist ratio.

      No one is not going to fuck Mia or Abbey because of their noses. Its stupid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >*votes against putting more violent low iq men in prison*
      >why are (violent low iq) men harassing me? must be because they are men

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you questioning their decision making. Yikes sweaty, looking like an incel

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't really understand why women vote for culture changes, as if the the fucking government can change the ideals of the people. They think rapes go away by telling men rape is bad and vote for policies that enable rapist like gun control or anything pro immigration. My opinion is they're just naive. They think bad guys can be defeated with the power of heart or some cartoon shit lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't really understand why women vote for culture changes, as if the the fucking government can change the ideals of the people. They think rapes go away by telling men rape is bad and vote for policies that enable rapist like gun control or anything pro immigration. My opinion is they're just naive. They think bad guys can be defeated with the power of heart or some cartoon shit lol

        traditionally women got what they wanted by getting men and older women to act on their behalf. Men could just go out and get what they wanted via their own labor, skills, etc. Men could get what they wanted via social connections but it wasn't as necessary as it was with women.

        Women don't realize they're still trapped in their old oppressed mentality. The door to the cave is open but they're still in their looking at the paintings on the wall.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Women don't realize they're still trapped in their old oppressed mentality
          on the other hand, why would they want to change anything about the situation? they get to be the eternal victim and whine while getting more and more gibs
          it's not like most of them realize that makes their societies and men weaker (and less attractive)
          and even the ones that do realize that putting women in men's shoes for many tasks makes them unhappier, can't do much about it since the tribe would viciously attack and ostracize them for not conforming, unless they can migrate to another tribe with beliefs closer to theirs
          see

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They think rapes go away by telling men rape is bad
        Yeah, this line of thinking is very common, not just with women but quite a few men too.
        It's just strange, some people seem to just refuse to believe that there's truly evil people out there that literally do not care they just raped someone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They think bad guys can be defeated with the power of heart or some cartoon shit lol
        This so fucking much. Just this Christmas my sister came over and the convo led to this kind of topic. The way she was so baffled that people will do bad things even if you tell them not to was insane.
        >you can't just say, "don't do bad thing" became people will still do it
        >yeah well if its ilegal then guys won't do it anymore
        And we kept going full circle for like 30 minutes.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    women don't care what "men" think of them, if anything, they're only concerned with chads (or just high status men in general)
    what they genuinely care about is how other women see them and how to they place against them in their own 'contests' that probably don't involve you at all
    learn these simple facts and stop thinking so much about women
    pic rel is you once you internalize this shit and learn how to live with it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they're only concerned with chads (or just high status men in general)

      chads don't give a shit about noses, chin implants, tits being too big, etc. They care about hip to waist ratio just like most other men.

      They'll knock up a woman with a nice ass and a giant nose just like they will knock up a woman with a nice ass and small nose.

      The fact that women can grow such giant honkers is proof of this. Apes and other primates don't have giant noses. Human women can have them because it isn't an obstacle to having babies. Men don't care.

      The solution for women is to literally put down the fork and be a little active

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >hurr durr chad cares about what I care about
        Yeah, nice self insert + projection, retard. Go write a manga where you're the main character.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >hurr durr chad cares about what I care about

          ok ding dong, you tell me what chad cares about if it isn't waist to hip ratio, not being fat and breast size.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't give a fuck about what other men think about you absolute gay. Imagine obsessing about some make-believe archetype born out of shitposting. Fucking have a nice day, seriously.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't give a fuck about what other men think about you absolute gay. Imagine obsessing about some make-believe archetype born out of shitposting. Fucking have a nice day, seriously.

              why bring up what chads want then?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this, bros don't realize women do the same dumb shit we do - intrasexual competition and being psyopped by ~~*media*~~ about what they should be thinking about

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >intrasexual competition and being psyopped by ~~*media*~~ about what they should be thinking about

        I don't think the anon you are responding to is as smart of you.

        I will agree some of it is a psyop by the wealthy. Surgeons make a lot of money cutting on bodies. Women should know they are being conned. The surgeon tells one woman she will be sexy if she gets large fake tits and tells another she will be sexy if she cuts all her tits off. How can both be true? It obviously can't. The only constant is the surgeon gets paid by both women.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The surgeon tells one woman she will be sexy if she gets large fake tits and tells another she will be sexy if she cuts all her tits off. How can both be true? It obviously can't
          tbf those are somewhat different scenarios, assuming there's chicks on different points of the DFC/bimbo spectrum (with varying amounts of insecurity), and assuming there's a goldilocks zone for tit size
          which is probably still oversimplified, assuming that big fat tiddy pain can be removed for most women via them stopping being lazy skinnyfat slobs with horrible habits
          but I'm just pulling stuff out my ass, tbhonky

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women lack discipline and will always look for any kind of shortcut to avoid exertion. Women RARELY ascend past the basic animal instinct of seeking pleasure and avoiding pain because in the current dating market they don't need to be enlightened to pass on their genes.

    With that mindset, why wouldn't you simply pay someone to make you "prettier" instead of working hard for it?

    The real problem is perpetuated by the weakness of modern men and their low standards. Ironically and paradoxically it's men's fault that modern women are so pathetic.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As a femanon, women care about:
    >Noses
    Because a big nose grabs away attention from the eyes and lips which are the most important features on the face. Big noses also look too masculine on women.
    >Chins
    Side profile
    >Smaller tits
    Bigger tits hurts your back

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do some fucking chin-ups.
      Or at least facepulls.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Because a big nose grabs away attention from the eyes and lips which are the most important features on the face. Big noses also look too masculine on women.

      lol, nah.

      Big noses draw attention to your eyes and mouth. When you smile, your nose scrunches a bit and forms lines on both sides of the nostrils. Its cute. Its a whole package deal. Men are not looking at your eyes and mouth in isolation much. And if they do, they'll ignore your nose regardless of size. If a man can ignore your whole head for a nice butt, they can ignore a nose for eyes and a smile.

      >Side profile

      Here is the thing. You don't know what makes woman's side profile feminine. No idea. Men do not like pointy chins. They do not like mannish chins that stick out past the lips. Go look at a halloween witch. big chin. Now go look at tinkerbell or a Disney princess. Tinkerbell has almost no chin. Or look at which chins men think are feminine on men...recessed chins.

      All these women getting chin implants to make theirs stick out further are nuts. It just makes them look older and more masculine.

      tits
      >Bigger tits hurts your back

      bigger tits make your more attractive. Do some pull ups to strengthen your back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's mostly to look better than other women.
        >Big noses draw attention to your eyes and mouth.
        No, you don't want your nose to be the first thing that people notice on your face as a woman. You want your lips or eyes to be the first thing that people notice, this is why women use makeup to enhance the eyes and lips, not the nose.
        >All these women getting chin implants to make theirs stick out further are nuts. It just makes them look older and more masculine.
        Most women want to go for the Angelina Jolie or Anne Hathaway look, they don't get big chin implants.
        >Do some pull ups to strengthen your back.
        Working out also hurts with big tits even if you wear a sports bra, it's much easier to get a reduction.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>Big noses draw attention to your eyes and mouth.
          >No, you don't want your nose to be the first thing that people notice on your face as a woman. You want your lips or eyes to be the first thing that people notice, this is why women use makeup to enhance the eyes and lips, not the nose.

          if someone likes how you look, they'll see your smile and eyes first regardless of nose size

          >>All these women getting chin implants to make theirs stick out further are nuts. It just makes them look older and more masculine.
          >Most women want to go for the Angelina Jolie or Anne Hathaway look, they don't get big chin implants.

          AJ's chin sticks out past her lips and is probably her worst facial feature.

          >>Do some pull ups to strengthen your back.
          >Working out also hurts with big tits even if you wear a sports bra, it's much easier to get a reduction.

          weight training doesn't hurt with big tits. Running and jumping jacks does. You can cut both. If you really want to do cardio, trying swimming or bike riding. But cardio doesn't make you skinny. Watching your diet does.

          You've answered everything in your last sentence though. Its because all this shit is easy. Nose jobs and chin implants are cheaper and easier than getting in shape and eating right. Also a smaller fix than having all the fat from your gut put into your ass and hips to improve your hip waste ratio.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Anne Hathaway

            Anne was prettier before the nose job

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Aggressive mimicry
              they are getting too good at it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if someone likes how you look, they'll see your smile and eyes first regardless of nose size
            Fair point
            >AJ's chin sticks out past her lips and is probably her worst facial feature.
            Most women like that about Angelina, she wasn't born with that chin, she got surgery to get it.
            > Nose jobs and chin implants are cheaper and easier than getting in shape and eating right.
            Easier yes, definitely not cheaper though.
            > Also a smaller fix than having all the fat from your gut put into your ass and hips to improve your hip waste ratio.
            Yes, ultimately waist to hip ratio is definitely more important than chin or nose but if you get a lipo there's a chance that you'll look like Julia Fox in your stomach region which most women definitely don't want.

            https://i.imgur.com/E3zsC1R.jpg

            >Anne Hathaway

            Anne was prettier before the nose job

            I think she looks better after but everyone likes different things.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              All I'm learning from this is that women are idiots. Men can literally tell you what men want and other men can openly agree and you'll still say they're wrong and you know better what men want. The absolute fucking hubris.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >>AJ's chin sticks out past her lips and is probably her worst facial feature.
              >Most women like that about Angelina, she wasn't born with that chin, she got surgery to get it.

              yes and it makes no sense. It isn't attractive for women to have chins that stick out so far. It makes them look old and masculine. How can they want to break and remove parts of their nose because it is "masculine" only to make their chin more masculine?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Just another anon here to remind you that Ann and Angelina both look worse after plastic surgery as do pretty much all women who are surgically altered.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Just another anon here to remind you that Ann and Angelina both look worse after plastic surgery as do pretty much all women who are surgically altered.

                women can't understand. They've been brainwashed by fashion mags, movies, influencers etc. They all want to look like the same unattainable skinny unremarkable white woman. Thats the whole point of fashion mags. to create something unataianble and yet feels unatainable.

                You can't even blame the gays because they think Madonna, lady gaga, even lady starlight are hot and they're pretty normal looking women.

                No, women want to look very bland and unattractive. Like Jennifer Lawrence and Kristen Stewart. The kind of women no man daydreams about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                this is literal the face most women dream of having. Stupid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Face is mediocre but pussy is primo. Both are overshadowed by the fact she's utterly retarded

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Face is mediocre but pussy is primo.

                oddly enough, women don't really worry about their pussies. spend thousands to look as bland as possible, then have a vagina that looks like arbies. Women are so fucking weird.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/3dKVd3O.jpg

                this is literal the face most women dream of having. Stupid.

                Nah homos and incels and hollywood is on their own weird shit

                In reality, women just exist as a fact of nature, and every living person today exists because a man and a woman reproduced successfully

                That's it, your monkey brain says reproduce, you see woman, monkey brain activates, make babies, everyone dies eventually and life goes on

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's truly mind boggling. If men just wanted to fuck some forgettable thing all men would just buy a sex doll. I can think of nothing that is a bigger turnoff than a woman destroying what makes her uniquely beautiful just to look more socially acceptable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're right about anything besides the chin thing. Recessed chins aren't attractive on anyone. Girls with nice jaws and chin are hot

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Quit LARPing as a woman

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not LARP, actual bio woman, trannies disgust me. I'm on IST because I like looking at the /cbt/ thread.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why do American women have an obsession with breast reductions?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not american

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bullshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >My back hurts, how should I solve this problem?
                >I could do some back strengthening exercises a few times per week and take responsibility for my well-being, or I can pay a doctor to cut my tits off and continue being a lazy cow.
                >I'm gonna do the second one, the first option is way too much work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do American women have an obsession with breast reductions?

                the long answer is probably American womens hatred for being forced to grow up. They had a pretty good childhood and being american just had everything given to them. Then that was stolen away by puberty. The boys around them start to find them attractive and have expectations for them. Their parents start to expect them to work harder in school and get ready to get a job or become a mom. Work or a husband start to expect labor from them.

                It all started with the tits. For whatever reason they don't also blame the hips and ass. I guess because they could have a fat butt as a fat kid. Or maybe because men also can have fat butts.

                Regardless, tits are seen as this evil thing that stole their innocence and cast them out of the easy life of child.

                They would never dream of embracing their sexuality or adult womanhood. They will never embrace making their body into a strong adult body that can carry the weight of being an adult woman.

                refusing to commit any actions of their own to improve their lot is part of the point. Its a rejection of an adulthood they did not ask for.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                women want them because models have small tits so they can't fit into most expensive clothing brands since all their shit is made for models

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's sloth.
                Basically every one that gets a reduction is overweight and sedentary. These are low IQ women who wouldn't even be a B cup without fat. They don't want to admit their health problems are because of their laziness so they pretend their chest is the cause of their back pain. Also they constantly get hit on by desperate incels who wouldn't dare suggest she's their last pick, so of course women like that are delusional.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You'd rather ruin yourself than deal with a few months of pain so you can strengthen your back to the point where it doesn't hurt anymore, AND you'd get to keep your bigger breasts. Women.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You'd rather ruin yourself than deal with a few months of pain so you can strengthen your back to the point where it doesn't hurt anymore, AND you'd get to keep your bigger breasts. Women.

            most women never consider weight training. Exercise is just running and the stair machine. Most don't even ride bikes.

            Its also part of why so many of them turn into frail little old ladies. They just don't consider weight training. It doesn't exist. They can barely comprehend the amount of work and weight training hot guys have to do.

            And if they do know? They think they're going to get big like arnold with a wig. They don't know that their body doesn't produce enough T to every make them swole

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Working out also hurts with big tits even if you wear a sports bra, it's much easier to get a reduction
          >it's much easier to irreversibly fuck up my body than to do a bit more research and figure out that core/back strengthening can be done with isometrics that won't trigger big tit pain
          I mean it's effective, your retardation is the best bait for men to come and try to solve your problems in a less retarded way
          women are the living embodiment Cunningham's Law irl

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the living embodiment of* Cunningham's Law irl
            that's what editing without proofreading gets me

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Angelina Jolie looks bad and her brain is retarded. You should look away from her, not up to her.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao how are women so consistently wrong but also so incredibly confident that they're right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All I'm learning from this is that women are idiots. Men can literally tell you what men want and other men can openly agree and you'll still say they're wrong and you know better what men want. The absolute fucking hubris.

        You asked why women don't like those features and I explained why. I don't know how that makes me an idiot and wrong.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't ask anything, I'm just an observer who's been reading the thread. I think it's hilarious (in a pathetic way) how women think they know what men like to the point where they refuse to accept when men directly tell them otherwise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Bigger tits hurts your back
      if you're an unfit sedentary fuck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Post tits or gtfo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As a femanon, I don't care about the stuff I can't change. Hair, skin, clothes, weight, and scent are all fair game, but I'm not going to spend time worrying about my nose or something equally dumb

      Women are vain beings. Plastic surgery is a vain pursuit. Hating plastic surgery means you hate women. Not hard to follow

      I hate that I'm vain. I wish I didn't care about this stuff, but I want to look good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Proof that women aren’t trying to be attractive for mating purposes. It’s just narcissism.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Women don’t do shit for men to notice them
    Men notice every available thing
    Women act to look and feel superior in the eyes of other women, it’s a “I know it’s a sick mindgame and I’ll never admit to myself and others that I play it too, but I’m better at it than other women” kind of thing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Women act to look and feel superior in the eyes of other women, it’s a “I know it’s a sick mindgame and I’ll never admit to myself and others that I play it too, but I’m better at it than other women” kind of thing

      if men do not factor into this, then by what criteria do they use?

      one anon said big noses on women make them look masculine. But then they get work on their chins and jaws to make them more masculine. Or cut off their tits, also making them more masculine.

      taken at face value, it looks like they are competing to see who can look the most childlike, to what end, who knows.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >N-NO I DO IT TO MOG OTHER WOMEN I SWEAR!
        do not believe their lies. the end goal is to look like a better choice to the men they want.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Which criteria
        Idk whatever stupid makeup or thong or hair trend is cool in their area/time

        >N-NO I DO IT TO MOG OTHER WOMEN I SWEAR!
        do not believe their lies. the end goal is to look like a better choice to the men they want.

        Its more of a popularity/being valued by fellow women thing
        Its like even the most educated, no-shit-giving woman wants to be in the loop about which boots are going to be in next winter
        Clothing, hair, makeup, sluttiness lvl (men see it as sluttiness but women see it as fashion choices) these are all values that originated and acquired importance among women, its like a language they speak

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Still me
          You need to keep it simple
          Men want:
          Tits/ass/hips to waist ratio/being down to fuck
          Women want:
          Respect in the form of being popular/appreciated for their aesthetic choices, and such validation cannot come from men, who we know couldn’t care less if you are not wearing matching earrings or the right perfume, but other women, the only ones who could give a shit about all of those unbelievably stupid notions on aesthetics and appearance women care about

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Women want:
            >Respect in the form of being popular/appreciated for their aesthetic choices, and such validation cannot come from men, who we know couldn’t care less if you are not wearing matching earrings or the right perfume, but other women, the only ones who could give a shit about all of those unbelievably stupid notions on aesthetics and appearance women care about

            seems kind of insane to do this given that men can give a woman just about anything she wants, while other women can give women little.

            I think some women know this and guide female competition in a way that makes women more attractive. But then outside forces fuck it up and manipulate female competition in a way that makes people money

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Women don’t do shit for men to notice them.
      *fork drops on the floor as you walk by*

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Women don’t do shit for men to notice them
      Keep saying that, maybe a man who's desperate or stupid will believe you.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean you are already pointing it out. If they are things they can not control they don't really have to do anything that takes effort to fix them, or they could get them fixed through plastic surgery, which also doesn't require them to put in work. More importantly, if noses are higher priority to other women, too, and women are competing with other women, and seeking their approval (more so than that of men), then it's just natural that getting their nose fixed is higher up their list.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >More importantly, if noses are higher priority to other women, too, and women are competing with other women, and seeking their approval (more so than that of men), then it's just natural that getting their nose fixed is higher up their list.

      women should just other women for noses though. Small upturned noses are literally only common in white women from a small part of the UK from the ages of 15 to 25. There not even common in white women, and the white women that have them grow out of them around the time they have their second or third child.

      Its such a self destructive pointless thing to obsess over

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >More importantly, if noses are higher priority to other women, too, and women are competing with other women, and seeking their approval (more so than that of men), then it's just natural that getting their nose fixed is higher up their list.
      This. OP literally doesn't even understand that men are doing the exact same thing. Men are LITERALLY the same. Men want to build bigger muscles, be a navy seal, be a tough guy, literally go for all these traits that women couldn' care less. Women care inifnitely more if you have a good skin care routine, nice lips, good hair, fashionable clothing etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Women care inifnitely more if you have a good skin care routine, nice lips, good hair, fashionable clothing etc.
        Perhaps it's time for women to just date other women.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Women care inifnitely more if you have a good skin care routine
        >than being masculine
        lol
        lmao even

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what a fucking obvious garden gnome

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let me throw that argument on it's head mate, since you seem to have forgotten where you are.

    Why do men on IST worry about parts of their appearance that no one outside of IST gives a shit about that are hard to change, while ignoring the things a majority of women do care about that they can change?

    Why do you worry about quads, shins, lats and obsess about your jawline instead of just focusing on becoming better at talking with women, get a nice haircut and develop a sense of fashion?

    It seems that IST doesn't get it either.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      HAHAHAHAHA, good one mate.
      >quads
      I've gotten compliments for it and women have asked me if I play soccer. It's a status symbol since big legs are really hard to achieve.
      >shins
      Like the ones on the front of your lower leg?
      >lats
      The most important thing in looking attractive as a man in terms of physical appearance outside of face is width. There was a literal study recently that concluded that the width of a man's shoulders was directly correlated to how likely a woman was to orgasm from his dick. Lats help you look wider, they're really fucking important. Posted a pic of my back on IG 2 days ago and got dms from 3 women I didn't know lmao.
      >jawline
      The most important facial aspect of a man. Bone structure is immensely important in looking attractive, you're absolutely retarded for not realizing that.
      >better at talking to women
      You get good at talking to women by being someone they desire, that's it. You can even rape them and get away with it if you're attractive enough.
      >haircut
      Your sole good point, I grew out my hair and regularly get compliments from women for it.
      >fashion
      Overrated, but not fully wrong. It's a multiplier for attractivity tho, so it will benefit attractive people more than ugly fuckers. 5/10s and below should focus on bodybuilding, getting leaner and jaw first.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      her music is so fr*cking bad, YIKES

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why you goys list over garden gnomeesses so hard. They are demons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >They are demons

      anime has taught me this is ok.

      So long as they put out after marriage, they're a step above christian and atheist white women

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That JAV is so good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That JAV is so good.

      Well it was nice seeing Hitomi take a bigger (at least on nip standards) cock. My only complaint is that the guy was too passive. By the 4th time the succubus is raping you you might as well go with it and fuck her back too.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's wrong. I would fuck her but I'd prefer a better looking woman

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >That's wrong. I would fuck her but I'd prefer a better looking woman

      look her in the face and say that again. You can't

      https://i.imgur.com/fakfv1L.jpg

      >They are demons

      anime has taught me this is ok.

      So long as they put out after marriage, they're a step above christian and atheist white women

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are women like this?
    The same way we think getting muscles will make them like us more when in reality as long as you're not fat or a superskelly you're already 90% of the way there physically.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Blackpillers and incels need to admit they just don't know anything about women

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For the same reason many men focus on their pecs and ignore their glutes.

    Egocentric bias.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >men don't really care about noses and chins on women

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      she's pretty hot, ngl

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>men don't really care about noses and chins on women

      big nose and small chin is hot on women that aren't fat and have a good hip to waist ratio. Its just a fact.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >women that aren't fat and have a good hip to waist ratio
        tbf that's kinda like picrel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >tbf that's kinda like picrel

          kinda. Now imagine that guy on the left thinking he can be as hot as the guy in the right by getting a nose job and not doing any work to get in shape or grow a beard or get clothes that fit. Then you have women

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that stereotype of women definitely reminds me of the lookismcels

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >that stereotype of women definitely reminds me of the lookismcels

              the real comedy is that at least lookismcels obess over stuff some women openly like, like tall guys. Women obsess over shit no man talks about, like noses and chins. Just random shit women pick up from women's magazines, pushed to sell make up and expensive surgeries.

              We're talking dumb shit like women hating their hip dips because a magazine said so. Women in the 80s were all trying to starve their asses off because of fashion magazines.

              The only thing the Kardashians did for humanity was talking women into not hating their asses and hips.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                eh, women obsess over ass & tiddy too, hell most women that do more than cardio shit do meme exercises hoping to get good butt thighs and tummy
                but yeah they're definitely even worse off when it comes to psyops, and the 90s fag designers making women want to look like boyish flat-ass twinks was a disaster, I'm glad it was before I was old enough

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are women like this?
    Women struggle differently with their bodies. For men it's easier to disengage from the body, since we know that our wit, our determination and other character-related traits can compensate for the limitations of our bodies. Many women ARE their bodies, they've been taught that their bodies are the most valuable things they have and many believed it and thus have nothing else. That's why they become obsessed with every little detail of it and are willing to spend hundreds of thousands in plastic surgery.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's all social status. 100 years ago in the West, women were judged by the size and status of their family: husband, kids, etc. Talk to people outside of the West, or old people, and you'll quickly get a sense that strong family was the goal of men and women, with material and superficial shit being secondary. Only in the oligarch class did people give a shit about this nonsense.

    Now, everyone has been brainwashed by propaganda to believe they're in the oligarch class. The fact that "shopping" is a hobby of so many women represents this perfectly. Everyone around you cares about superficial nonsense because all the corporate media (including cell phone news feeds, social media, etc.) cares about is superficial nonsense, so if you want to maintain some semblance of social status, you also need to care about superficial nonsense.

    I married a woman because she was really interested in having kids and building a strong life together, we get married and all she wants to do is shop, restaurants, spend hundreds of dollars on stupid cosmetic creams at Target that don't work, etc.

    Anyway, you also see this with a lot of men: put a man in a social group, and he'll try to rise to the top, or at least participate enough in what the group cares about to not be ostracized. In psychology we call it "social proof": if everyone else cares about something, it must be important, right?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I married a woman because she was really interested in having kids and building a strong life together, we get married and all she wants to do is shop, restaurants, spend hundreds of dollars on stupid cosmetic creams at Target that don't work, etc.

      depressing but true. Most women just want to travel 8 hours from home and eat food in unfamiliar places. Its really weird and I have no idea how so many women just obsess over eating.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why do men worry about parts of their appearance that no one cares about, that are hard to change, while ignoring the things women do care about that they can change?

    Sometimes I go on reddit and read what women actually find attractive in themselves and men. I will say that it has helped me some because it has made me realize that model level men and women feel their ugly.

    But I often see men that hate their noses, hate their chins, want bigger penis, etc, but they never talk about losing weight or getting in shape. I even saw one about ben asking if girls just care about dick size, saying ben was small

    men really don't get it. If we can be honest for a second and not talk in memes, women don't really care about dicks and chins on men. Its literally all about the hip to waist ratio. Thats it.

    People are paying to have their noses broken and plastic put in their dick when all they would really have to do is lose weight.

    Why are men like this?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >that are hard to change, while ignoring the things men do care about that they can change?
    Tits are objectively better than ass.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love bitches with big noses, their face reminds me of a bird and I fucking love birds bros.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have a thing for birds, but a long nose often looks great on a woman ime.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Another woman hate thread? Just get a twink already and call it a day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Another woman hate thread?

      nah. Its actually very pro woman. Looking as good as Abbey is a pretty low bar. She's got a very simple beauty to her face. Nothing too extreme.

      OP is essentially asserting that most women are attractive. That most noses and chins are fine. Most women don't need surgery. All they need is to eat a little better and work out a bit.

      OP is a little inflammatory, but the message is actually very sweet and kind of to women. Dudes would be crying with joy if a woman came here and told them to not worry so much about things they can't change, that she even loves some short guys or some balding guys, just to focus on losing weight and not being fat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Truth

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Dudes would be crying with joy if a woman came here and told them to not worry so much about things they can't change, that she even loves some short guys or some balding guys, just to focus on losing weight and not being fat.
        Luckily no woman would ever say that lmao

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >my garden gnomeess goddess
    why is she so perfect bros?

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Men literally do the same thing.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This. It's the same when women spend money to look good. They go do their nails or some retarded shit like that and use insane amount of money, time and effort in similar decoration. All of course while putting zero effort in losing weight or excercising.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can shed some light on this I mastered in gender studies & also have a bachelors in sociology. I have conducted several multi year long experiments which have bared fruit to some very intriguing findings.
    Most of these studies involved polls, surveys, and questionnaires and I have always gotten the same result at 100% accuracy.
    The answer to why women do [anything] is that they’re fucking stupid lmao

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Same mentality gymcels have, people on here get mad when a woman points out she doesn't find men that workout all the time attractive and people on here type paragraphs seething about it "we don't care what women want, we do it for ourselves" and "what women say != what women want" and whatnot. Its no different than women getting angry when men tell her that getting a breast reduction surgery and wearing five pounds of make up will make her less attractive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Breast reductions objectively make women more attractive. Saggy cow tits are disgusting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You should check your test

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You should check your bestiality fetish.

          Decent bait, but every man with a functioning nutsack knows you're full of shit.

          >le only real man like disgusting saggy watermelon tits!
          Gross. You have zero aesthetic sensibility. You do not understand beauty. You are a subhuman. Quite literally.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You like men.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              number 2 for me please

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You like cows.

              >Gross. You have zero aesthetic sensibility. You do not understand beauty.

              anon, human women have the largest tits of any primate. They have large tits because humans find them attractive and select for them. Being anti boob just makes you less human

              >muh evolution
              Big fat saggy cow tits has NEVER been a trait that men desire through history.
              I bet you think moron baboon asses are attractive too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Gross. You have zero aesthetic sensibility. You do not understand beauty.

            anon, human women have the largest tits of any primate. They have large tits because humans find them attractive and select for them. Being anti boob just makes you less human

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Breast reductions objectively make women more attractive.

        XX hands typed this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sweetie did you drink your soi juice its time for your vasectomy appointment

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Decent bait, but every man with a functioning nutsack knows you're full of shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >people on here get mad when a woman points out she doesn't find men that workout all the time attractive
      If you ask a women who says that to provide an example of a man she likes, she'll show a picture of a guy that works out (but she's not smart enough to know he works out and thinks "works out" means looking like a roid chud).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >If you ask a women who says that to provide an example of a man she likes, she'll show a picture of a guy that works out (but she's not smart enough to know he works out and thinks "works out" means looking like a roid chud).

        or a guy that has some mass from eating a lot of meat and working a blue collar job that puts some muscle on him.

        A good example is my mom thought my dad was hot the summer he was bailing hay by hand. He built is shoulders and arms up throwing big heavy bails of hay on a flat bed trailer.

        I don't think she's ever put all that together.

        Women are just like that. They either don't know or won't admit it. They like to date military guys for the same reason. The exercise keeps them pretty fit.

        I love women. But they're all really nonobservant, or dishonest, or both.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          very on point

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you don't build noticeable muscle over the course of a summer, lmao

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >People are paying to have their noses broken and plastic put in their chin when all they would really have to do is lose weight.
    Because losing weight requires self control (a male trait) and getting a nose job just requires money

    Wait until they figure out what we think about women over 30...

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because social media is damaging. When you can filter what you put out there (both in terms of selective grooming of posts and in terms of physical digital image filters) you can fool other women into thinking you have a perfect life. This breeds insecurity, and insecurity is a hard poison to detoxify.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The most beautiful thing about a woman is her soul.

    No matter her body, her clothes, all of that. It is the content of her character that matters most. It is her heart.

    I do not have trouble with women, not for years, I am the one causing trouble and heartbreak for women. You see women want love, they want to be mothers and raise families, and a lot of men just want to bust a nut.

    It's not rocket science, but life will suck if you are stuck with a woman who is not kind and is vain, mean, spiteful, hateful, etc

    It is better to be with ONE woman and be loyal to her until you die, if you want to successfully raise a family and maintain a marriage.

    If you just want to bust a nut it's not that hard really and one day you will get old, will you be married or raising a family? Or will you just be thinking about busting a nut? Because that is literally your brain telling you to make a baby, that is why it happens.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      her soul, and her character is indeed pretty high up there for me

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember a thread about some jubilee video where a couple of whores had half a dozen of plastic surgeries and they looked like absolute shit and were still fat. It's on the same level of stupidity as gays that do bone smashing

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like big tits and small tits. I like tall girls and short girls. I like thin girls but not sticc and chubby but not obese girls.
    The things I want the most are an honest heart who loves me and health. I can get into the rest of the girl.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lip injections never look good and they always make you look retarded. Overly groomed eyebrows are a red flag, it's like having purple hair. It takes a certain personality to sit in front of a mirror for hours preening yourself and still get it wrong.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "What women really think? We don't know. Why do they care about other things then their own tits and ass? I care about tits and ass. What goes on inside of a woman's head? Is it complicated? Couldn't be. I want sex. Why women won't have sex with me? What do they think about? It's deeply misguided. I cannot understand them. Let's try to speculate together"

    I honestly think that testosterone lowers your IQ.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Science Time.

    Studies show that men select primarily for, in order :
    1- Facial Symetry (Facial Beauty)
    2- Not being Obese (Overweight isokay, but obese is not)
    3- If a woman is nice to them.

    So women can't really control N°1. Facial symmetrycan't be changed,it's genetic, unless you're willing to do plastic surgery.
    That's why it's so popular these days.
    Even if women don't know this outright, their instincts and experience will prove that it's true and push them to get surgery.

    Number 2, No being Obese, is where women REEE the most.
    Telling a woman that being obese is very unnattractive makes them very angry, because you'retelling them they have to control themselves and work out.
    Women HATE having responsibility overtheir own beauty.
    They want you o be attracted to them, even if they don't take care of themselves.
    Hence all the Fat Positivity and HAES bullshit these past few years.

    And don't give me no "Architext" meme bullshit.
    Science shows that less than 5% of Men find "Fat girls" attractive.
    Not only that, but this 5% of men are NEVER high value men, few exceptions don't disprove the rule.

    And the 3rd is both funny and sad.
    Women are so mean in general, that being nice is a genuine quality men look for.
    That's why the most diagreable and angry feminists don't get laid.
    They are not nice enough to attract normal men.

    There.

    And if you're curious about the other way around,
    Women select men primarily for, in order :
    -Social Status (Wealth, Fame and Power/Influence).
    - Height
    - Shoulder Width.

    There.
    Now you know.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is this study based on dating apps? Because that doesn't reflect real life

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >is this study based on dating apps? Because that doesn't reflect real life
        Nope, not at all.
        For Dating Apps, it's almost exclusively about physical appearence, because that'sthe only thing you can really get from dating apps, since you can basically fake eveything else.
        I can back this up by saying that people's bio's on dating apps don't even matter, especially for women.
        Theyonly made choices based on the pictures.
        So to be succesful on dating apps is to be physcially attractive andhave quality pictures.

        It was scientific research done in a controlled environment.
        As scientifically as possible.

        It was not Self-Reported.
        So maybe that's where the confusion you have comes from.

        People might SAY they want a certain thing.
        But scientist used the actions of people to determine these things.
        How they rated people's photos, with and without information, like "This guy makes 200k a year" / "This guy is 6ft2" type of studies.

        I didn't chose these results or made them up.
        I'm simply repeating the information I've found.

        Remember that this is "on average".
        Women select differently depending on the situation, or if certan criterias are met / not met.

        But please, if you have better information, other scientific studies, that explain this better or is "reflect real life better" then please share them.

        You can also share you personnal opinion on what order things should be, or what factors were not included but should have been.
        I'm all ears.

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