Why have they not created a zero calorie alcohol yet? They can do it with soda.

Why have they not created a zero calorie alcohol yet? They can do it with soda.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alcohol is 7 calories per gram, it'd be ike trying to make 0 calorie lard

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because sweetness doesn't depend on calorie content the same way alcohol relies on alcohol content. Alcohol has calories. We'd need a drink that acts similar to alcohol but isn't alcohol. There are drugs that can make you feel drunk, but those are illegal.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What drugs?
      I have yet to come across a drug that gives the same effect as alcohol.
      Weed is nowhere near the same, mdma has too high cliffs and valleys, I'm not aware of any RC that can recreate the same effects.

      You can get annihilated like once or twice a week and still maintain muscle as long as the rest of your diet is on point

      That's effectively what I'm doing, I eat around 900-1200 cals 6/7 days a week then hit around 4000 cals on Friday night. I started my diet 1 and 1/2 months ago and have already dropped 10lbs.

      This isn't a thread on "boo hoo why can't I drink alcohol" it's more on what available drugs are there than can recreate the effect with zero calories.
      I've heard promising things about phenibut but I can't find substantial studies.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a drug that gives the same effect as alcohol.
        There's a whole class of them, called "depressants".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok lets add a caveat, a drug that gives the same effect as alcohol that isn't on the same level as heroin.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >heroin
            That's an opiod.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ketamine, anon. Ketamine.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I've had ketamine before, it's nowhere near the level I'm looking for.
              I'm looking for something you can take daily without notice.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Diazepam. Literally given to alcies to cope with withdrawals.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        benzos

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Phenibut is like being drunk without the sloppiness

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          See the problem is I only hear positives about Phenibut.
          There has to be some negatives.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It’s snorted, and generally snorting things is bad for you, and leads many people to snorting other more dangerous drugs.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can get it in pill form

              See the problem is I only hear positives about Phenibut.
              There has to be some negatives.

              You’ll form an addiction if you’re a retard and take like 5g of it constantly. May be a little lethargic the next day. And you need to pace yourself if you take it AND drink

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well I've just ordered 25g of it.
                So, what do you reccomend?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Take 1g to start out. You probs wont feel much, so try 2g. You also wont feel much, so if you weigh at least 180lbs then you can try 3g. If you don't feel anything here I wouldn't take more. You can use it as a nootropic or weak benzo. Strictly use it for its anxiolytic effect. No 'buzz'

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I weigh 161lbs
                However I'm on a cut, will that make the effects stronger?
                I'm not exactly looking for a buzz, more just a mitigation of the feeling that everyone is looking at me when I step outside.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              wtf you don't snort phenibut

              I weigh 161lbs
              However I'm on a cut, will that make the effects stronger?
              I'm not exactly looking for a buzz, more just a mitigation of the feeling that everyone is looking at me when I step outside.

              Listen to

              I get pretty intense euphoria from phenibut on just 1g. Whoever told you to start out with doses larger than 2g did you a major disservice. I normally take 500mg about twice a week, and then I'll ul that to 1g if I want to have a really good day. No reason to go further than that.

              I'm 165
              Don't use phenibut as something to get high on. 2g is where you actually start to feel drunk and 3g makes you feel *very* drunk. At that point you're actually inebriated and sloppy. 500-1500mg is the optimal "therapeutic" dose. It takes about 3 hours to kick in and peaks at around 4 hours. You won't really feel any body effects, but you'll suddenly find yourself much more talkative and open to social interaction. My social anxiety basically disappears when I take it and I'm just generally in a better mood. It's "euphoric" but not in the same way alcohol or something like cocaine is euphoric. It just elevates your baseline and makes you feel pleasant all day. Of course, everyone's brain is different and your mileage may vary.

              Personally, I think that people tend to exaggerate the addiction potential. But it is possible to get physically addicted to phenibut. Apparently the withdrawals are similar to benzos and extremely uncomfortable. Don't take it every day and take a break if you notice yourself gaining a tolerance.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Phenibut - its like a benzo, really clean anxiolytic effect, no euphoria like alcohol. I dont like it, I took 2.7g and didn't feel shit. At least when I take 2mg of xanax I feel fucked up. Diazepam is a great 'whiskey/wine drunk' simulator that is slightly less euphoric but more 'comfortable'.

            You could do a low 1st plat dose of DXM via robocaps to simulate the buzz/stimulation of booze. Then just drink a weak drink of spirits like vodka/gin/whiskey diluted in club soda (no sugar). Or take 20ml shots of everclear or bacardi 151 every couple hours or so (titrate your dose and go slow).

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I get pretty intense euphoria from phenibut on just 1g. Whoever told you to start out with doses larger than 2g did you a major disservice. I normally take 500mg about twice a week, and then I'll ul that to 1g if I want to have a really good day. No reason to go further than that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        any GABAergic drug. benzos, phenibut, GHB

        dangerous game to play though if you have an addictive personality

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vodka has only 100 calories per shot. Seems low enough to me.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They have. It's called not drinking you alcoholic.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Soda is made of water. Alcohol is made of... alcohol.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You got a source on that?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I get mine from the liquor store

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can get annihilated like once or twice a week and still maintain muscle as long as the rest of your diet is on point

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Zero calorie alcohol
    That wouldn't be alcohol.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the alcohol itself has calories

    That's about as retarded as zero calorie protein

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You mean, like, benzos?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon imma let you in on the secret
    Eat your protein. Chicken and eggs early in the day. Eat 0 carbs on a day you’re gonna drink.
    Then later on drink only spirits or dry red wine. Vodka and whiskey are “low calorie” options. Don’t drink beer.
    Do this once or twice a week and live your life. You can even do this while cutting.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they did, first they were quaaludes, then they became barbituates, and now we have benzos. Very addictive. Don't do them, especially not diazepam (valium), thats the most recreational one and makes you feel like you're melting into the cough (has the strongest muscle relaxant effect of any benzo).

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ketamine and benzos are the top 2 answers in the thread cuz I don't know a clue about phenibut

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They do

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