Evolutionarily it doesn't make sense. Evolutionarily "dad bods" (so strong with extra fat) should be the most attractive since they indicate the fittest animals in regards to survival.
Evolutionary? You mean you have constructed a population study or what scientific method are you exactly referring to? Because to me it sounds like you are just using philosophy here.
>since they indicate the fittest animals in regards to survival.
no they don't. warriors, hunters, etc. all had lean functional bodies capable of running great distances.
Why would they run great distances? They walked long distances and shot animals from afar.
Resilience and ability to survive when there isn't food?
There is no ability to survive without food. Your fat and muscle get burned for food, then your organs. Only protection is inactivity and low body mass.
Not really. High T alphamales are lean even when eating a lot. They just build more muscle with the extra calories. Those builds are sexy to women also, perhaps even more so. What is not sexy are men who drink a gallon of soi a day but do some powershitter routine.
No its just calories in versus calories out.
Humans are not rational creatures, humans are irrational spiritual beings to intelligent for their own good but often too unwilling to learn.
Nice argumentation technique there. Care to focus on the substance too? Although please dont disagree on anything there, these are all proven facts anyway.
Leanness shows muscular. Muscular strikesbour lizard brains as formidable and intimidating to men and capable of protecting and providing to women. Part of the increased desire is the effect on camera. It looks strong. It’s much harder to convey size on camera which is why shredded manlets can tear it up on Instagram and tiktok. In real life overall size becomes important as well and built(slightly)fat is on more even footing especially with shorter shredded guys
>just calories in versus calories out
hormones determine what your body does with the excess calories, moron. If you are fat then for most of history that meant you had bad genes. There wasn't gallons of soi to drink like there is today.
Evolutionarily it doesn't make sense. Evolutionarily "dad bods" (so strong with extra fat) should be the most attractive since they indicate the fittest animals in regards to survival.
>since they indicate the fittest animals in regards to survival.
no they don't. warriors, hunters, etc. all had lean functional bodies capable of running great distances.
so nothing. you offered nothing in the way of what you'd provide just that you'd hang around a tiny bit longer to mooch. prehistoric women would be absolutely dripping for you.
>no they don't. warriors, hunters, etc. all had lean functional bodies capable of running great distances.
Tribal hunters/warriorr aren't exactly lean and muscular most of the time. They are normal/skinnyfat, no abs or anything.
>no they don't. warriors, hunters, etc. all had lean functional bodies capable of running great distances.
Tribal hunters/warriorr aren't exactly lean and muscular most of the time. They are normal/skinnyfat, no abs or anything.
They are lean they just don't have abs fools.
That's it. I don't understand how you don't understand the distinction.
Literally Google "African Hunter Gatherer Tribes" and most will have their midsection covered but those that aren't do indeed show no abs, but abs do not mean low body fat.
We have been over this, you can be 5% body fat and still not see abs unless you work them out.
Why is it healthy?
Why is it masculine?
Why is it physically capable?
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Evolutionary? You mean you have constructed a population study or what scientific method are you exactly referring to? Because to me it sounds like you are just using philosophy here.
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Why would they run great distances? They walked long distances and shot animals from afar.
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There is no ability to survive without food. Your fat and muscle get burned for food, then your organs. Only protection is inactivity and low body mass.
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No its just calories in versus calories out.
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Humans are rational creatures.
>Humans are rational creatures.
Hahahahhahahahah
moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
Greatest mistake in anthropology was thinking Black folk are a good study
These guys are weak and not a good model to look at, I mean there's a reason they're still in this state thousands and thousands of years later. Warriors in Europe would be a better example, people who actually won wars.
>These guys are weak and not a good model to look at, I mean there's a reason they're still in this state thousands and thousands of years later.
Ye man, Europe got ahead of everyone because they were stronger and more pretty...
Eastern Europeans and Slavs do actually have strong bodies and as strong if not more than Sub-Saharan Africans actually. East and North Africans on the other hand are more suited to endurance activities than strength which is why you see a lot of long distance runners from those countries.
The amount of wrestlers, weightlifters, and fighters that came from east Europe/Slavs is not comparable to most ethnicities.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Eastern Europeans and Slavs do actually have strong bodies and as strong if not more than Sub-Saharan Africans actually.
moron, learn to read. You think Europe got ahead because they could carry a couple lbs more than some African?
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They are lean they just don't have abs fools.
That's it. I don't understand how you don't understand the distinction.
Literally Google "African Hunter Gatherer Tribes" and most will have their midsection covered but those that aren't do indeed show no abs, but abs do not mean low body fat.
We have been over this, you can be 5% body fat and still not see abs unless you work them out.
[...] >Humans are rational creatures.
Hahahahhahahahah
moron
>no abs
wtf are you guys talking about? those dudes do have abs, they're just not flexing them.
>using African and abo hunter gatherers as examples
This is a moronic meme. Those guys look like that because of the environment they live in and the fact that their diet is very restricted. A typical Germanic man in ancient times just as an example was eating much more meat and calorie dense food in general and was also more conditioned to developing muscle and mass due to the harsher environment and cold weather that often rapidly changed with the seasons
Not really. High T alphamales are lean even when eating a lot. They just build more muscle with the extra calories. Those builds are sexy to women also, perhaps even more so. What is not sexy are men who drink a gallon of soi a day but do some powershitter routine.
Except that any amount of extra fat reduces all kinds of physical capacity, except powerlifting I guess. But anything requiring finesse, endurance, or feats of strength that benefit more from moving gracefully than with more weight will suffer from being at all fat. Calorically speaking for lean periods there's plenty in internal fat and the liver for a long time. Not like you don't get weak as shit after only a few days of not eating anyway.
omg - and what have we been telling you this entire time? Women DO FIND dadbods the most attractive, that's what science says, studies say, anecdotes say, women asked when shown different bodies on youtube say, tiktok memes - they are not making it up. But rather than listen to all of that you apparently listen to incels.
It IS TRUE that girls under 22 or so like fellows kids and that generally means the skinnier look. After that, dadbod or even a little fatbuilt.
>literally everything shows the opposite. lean natty limit is the most attractive
This is false.
Literally everything shows girls like dadbods. Literally. Everything.
Did you look at the youtube video I posted?
Go look up any more sources, find anywhere they find women prefer thin people and post it here. Now don't come back with someone saying something like males like fit and trim men, I am talking about a real study or something similar, even anecdotes, about preferring really thin guys to guys with some fat.
It doesn't exist. It is a homosexual thing and/or for bodybuilding competitions.
The proof is that never has a "dadbod" been featured in the cover of female targeted serial romance books which are also typically written by women. Basically you're a fat coper
Are these what women think are dadbods? Just goes to show how moronic women are
2 years ago
Anonymous
>T-that's not what I meant. I-I was talking about something different!
These dudes do not have the traditional tapered look they are supposed to have, they have what more resembles a dadbod or builtfat body. Remember that this is the absolute pinnacle of female desire here. A little more fat and a little less muscle isn't going to destroy your chances.
The reason you think a tapered look looks good is because literally - your male brain prefers a tapered look and it can't get out of that thinking process.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That taper you are thinking of is pretty much genetics. Or just absurd amounts if muscle creating it on a heavy roider. Those guys are very lean and in exceptional shape. I hope you are baiting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the guy in pic you replied to does not have a dad bod, you colossal wiener sucking dysmorphic homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jesus christ your deranged foid brain really thinks that roided out man has a dadbod? That guy has no fricking fat and chiseled abs, to claim dadbod is absurd.
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/fyEUtvk.jpg
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>T-that's not what I meant. I-I was talking about something different!
These dudes do not have the traditional tapered look they are supposed to have, they have what more resembles a dadbod or builtfat body. Remember that this is the absolute pinnacle of female desire here. A little more fat and a little less muscle isn't going to destroy your chances.
The reason you think a tapered look looks good is because literally - your male brain prefers a tapered look and it can't get out of that thinking process.
>Literally everything shows girls like dadbods. Literally. Everything.
What the frick you homies talking about?
“women were more willing to have short-term relations with muscular men without the requirement that they demonstrate characteristics particularly desired in long-term mates (trustworthiness, emotional closeness, etc.), possibly because these men possessed physical indicators of genetic fitness.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201907/5-reasons-why-muscles-matter-women-and-men
Not really fatso. Hunters used to outrun animals with endurance so lean guys would be more attractive evolution wise. But now days with the abundance of food is different.
Not defending that guy because he's moronic but you're also moronic for thinking persistence running is practical or has ever been or that it is representative of how a large portion of humanity evolved. I mean, you go right nexr door to supposed persistence hunters and nigs are built like gorillas and they're just as primitive a people group. Plus persistence hunting has never actually been shown to be practical. The instances of it happening were either staged or ironically one time by people in Siberia who were lost.
Dad bod is indicative of disfunction in androgenic signaling. Masculine behavior (or the testosterone your body releases in response) not only makes you muscular, but shredded too. Yes dad bod can survive the winter, but leanbulked bod is indicative of someone with masculine behavior, like acquiring the resources necessary to survive said winter, aggressively if necessary. Steal dadbod's food supply with your superior mental acuity and fighting stamina!
>Dad bod is indicative of disfunction in androgenic signaling
Nowadays? No way, Its not the best body but it easily mogs most of the population which is comprised of obese people,fat people,skinny-fat people and skinny people.
Easily top 10% body,It just so happens shredded body is even above,top 5% ,close to 1%
But lets not fool ourselves most people look like shit.
evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
If I had to come up with a napkin theory for why leanness might be attractive to women I would say time of year might have a lot to do with it.
Spring is around when carbs start to grow but through spring there's not a lot of them. Although at the time your dudes probably don't look really muscular because no glycogen. The moment they start getting those carbs glycogen comes back but they're still lean probably also their first surplus in around 4-5 months so they're probably horny as hell. Around late spring mid summer would probably be the best time for woman to get pregnant because it means the baby is less likely to die from to the elements before it has a chance to put on enough weight. This is completely out my ass but I think if I had like a few hours I could come up with supporting sources to make dumb people believe it.
>evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
No, we're social animals, it's why even past our sexual prime we still have a function it's passing on knowledge to the younger generations. It's why older people in almost every culture and time except ours has been revered as a source of knowledge and a lynchpin of the community.
still cope, a long and revered tradition of coping is coping nonetheless. Not that coping doesn't have utility you're just bad meat and if you haven't had kids by then you're probably double coping.
>still cope, a long and revered tradition of coping is coping nonetheless.
I don't even know how te responf to mentally ill failures like you. >Not that coping doesn't have utility
Schizo moron. >you're just bad meat and if you haven't had kids by then you're probably double coping.
So you're just useless if you don't have kids but beyond kids you don't have any purpose beyond living past 25
evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
If I had to come up with a napkin theory for why leanness might be attractive to women I would say time of year might have a lot to do with it.
Spring is around when carbs start to grow but through spring there's not a lot of them. Although at the time your dudes probably don't look really muscular because no glycogen. The moment they start getting those carbs glycogen comes back but they're still lean probably also their first surplus in around 4-5 months so they're probably horny as hell. Around late spring mid summer would probably be the best time for woman to get pregnant because it means the baby is less likely to die from to the elements before it has a chance to put on enough weight. This is completely out my ass but I think if I had like a few hours I could come up with supporting sources to make dumb people believe it.
like you posted there. ell me how I know you don't have kids and grew up n a very dysfuntional family. Do you even know your father?
I had kids before I was 21.
You are so mad, bet you thought you could make it after 30.
lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I had kids before I was 21.
So by your logic you should die in 4 years, since muh no function. >You are so mad,
Taking about cope > bet you thought you could make it after 30.
Said the thing that peaked at 16.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is how I know you're just absolutely seething right now. People over 25 don't have the same imperative to be sexually attractive because they're already past prime. Trying to be sexually attractive past your prime is cope mostly by people who didn't get laid enough in their prime to be tired of chasing prostitutes by then. It has nothing to do with them being useless or whatever shit you're projecting in there to try to make it say what you want it to.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>This is how I know you're just absolutely seething right now
Seethe , cope, fren, no cap. Ofcourse you had kids by 21. >eople over 25 don't have the same imperative to be sexually attractive because they're already past prime.
Learn to read you wigger, humans have a function past muh prime sexuality. Passing on knowledge is a thing among social animals, the fact that you ignored that makes me wonder do you or even your mother knoww who the sperm donor was? > Trying to be sexually attractive past your prime is cope
Lol as if being sexually aaatractive is your only function >mostly by people who didn't get laid enough in their prime to be tired of chasing prostitutes by then.
Maybe Freud was right looking at your moronic posts. >It has nothing to do with them being useless or whatever shit you're projecting in there to try to make it say what you want it to.
You have the memory of a goldfish, humans having no function beyond muh 25 was the whole pivot of your galaxy brain posts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You have the memory of a goldfish, humans having no function beyond muh 25 was the whole pivot of your galaxy brain posts.
I said >evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
and it is. That is not the same as saying humans have no function past 25. You are 100% projecting your own agendas onto my posts because you're emotional and probably old.
2 years ago
Anonymous
mid 30's is literally sexual prime for White men lmao
for White girls/women, it's from period to maybe 25 (on average)
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would say mid twenties is like an averaged estimate. Asians and whites enter puberty later and boys enter puberty generally after girls as well. Blacks, hispanics, arabs tend to enter puberty earlier and it ends sooner. I wouldn't say mid 30's is average for anyone. It might be good for you because you're getting more DHT and if you're baby faced or can't beard that's when you might look more like a man but I would still say that's on the downslope early downslope though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i'll be in my prime for at least another decade, until late 40s
i've always been extremely good looking, elite, etc.
superior (Aryan) genetics dude, simple as
a higher carb diet will certainly make you fatter easier if you don't have as much activity to mitigate it. If carbs are more available and game is leaner you don't have to range as far to get fed. Also your game in winter and spring are going to be leanest of the year so even dietary fat they're probably low on around then. I doubt any primitive peoples were eating a surplus or perfect maintenance year round.
None of this matters though because it's not real it's just bullshit I made up.
>a bit less
it's like the difference between 200-300kcal per hour * the number of individuals hunting and like sitting around eating whatever until it's gone after a few days and moving on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You really think anyone was expending that much from moving all day literally every day?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, even more than that if you include maintenance and take into account some populations being bigger than modern humans. We could only get that big since our hunt success rate so insanely higher than other animals.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You hunt a mammoth or several and you're in place for days if not more.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think mammoth is kind of larpy and reindeer is probably more realistic for a much longer period of time
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mammoths were unironically easier to hunt and track. Literally just scare them off a cliff
It just is, there may be an evolutionary reason for it but it doesn't really signify anything other than showing off your musculature. As others have said a dad bod physique like pic rel SHOULD be much more attractive to women as it shows he has ample food sources in order to be a bit fat.
The truth of the matter is that humans don't just sexually select for traits that are evolutionary beneficial e.g. light eyes. Some people say that they are better for seeing in the night but at the end of the day people aren't going to be able to measure that thousands of years ago and it's just purely based on aesthetics.
Here is a meme video about it: https://odysee.com/@looksmaximus:5/island:896
This is Robert Sapolsky lecturing at Stanford about human sexual selection: https://youtu.be/LOY3QH_jOtE
That video is very interesting however I would look for the lecture centered on sexual selection within mammals and it gives you a much better understanding of our own sexual selection as people are free to talk about it and study it without ethics or morality getting in the way.
>light eyes
light eyes are the sign of a more evolved and more trustworthy person
every race with predominantly dark eyes are closer to monkeys (who also have predominantly dark eyes) on the evolutionary chain
sorry (not sorry) but this is just facts
you're almost there, it has to do with the fact that you can see the pupils easier. your primitive brain is scanning for deception constantly and the pupils give away alot
>The truth of the matter is that humans don't just sexually select for traits that are evolutionary beneficial e.g. light eyes.
Wrong, lighter eyes help distinguish between colors in high light conditions (whiteout), this is why huskies have blue eyes. Several species of polar birds, as well.
lol you know you give yourself away by how you post right? no one fit would think it's impossible other posters are too. only incels doubt every post about getting laid easy on here. etc.
please lose weight
It’s not necessarily the vascularity, the definition of an Adonis belt and muscles, the attractiveness is stemmed from seeing someone that has an iron will
We live in a world where the average person is fat and stupid.
Being lean requires at least some higher intelligence (not overeating 24/7 like an animal) and a level of wealth that allows you to spend time lifting/running/etc. and eating healthy foods [occasionally]
TL;DR
Being fat is a sign of someone who is stupid with low will-power and low-medium socioeconomic status. Leanness is the opposite
>lol you know you give yourself away by how you post right? no one fit would think it's impossible other posters are too. only incels doubt every post about getting laid easy on here. etc. >please lose weight
The human body considers extraneous fat so detrimental that it evolved to keep it as close to the center of gravity as possible because it fricks extremity movement otherwise. There's literally no argument for fat beyond muh emergency calories. But that one is moronic because we already have storage besides subcutaneous fat and you're fricking up if you go that long without as a hunter/gatherer. It's actually farmers who are more likely to have long periods of no good food. Which happens to also be a large part of why farmers die so easy from diseases.
Actually polynesians are inclined to carry extra weight really easily. But it's basically because they are incredibly cold adapted and applies to muscle not just fat.
Triggered fatties and dyels itt.
To answer your question op, leanness by itself is not sexy. A leaner muscular physique is attractive because the muscles pop out more, indicating strength. Muscles are sexy even on a body that is carrying more fat, hence the dad bod. Nobody finds a skelly sexy by itself, but as the incels say, a strong jaw can do wonders.
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Thats great bro,people really underestimate how much weight they have to lose,now time time to do a slow bulk right?
Thats whay Im gonna do once I hit my goal body,but I will try to no go over 70kilos in a year,preferably 68kgs at most.
I went from 82 to 76 in a month and the only change was my upper chest, face and vascularity of forearms when curling.
Still gotta cut another 6kg or so for that waistline myself, but I've been slowly bulking for 2 years now.
Had a pleasant epiphany recently when sitting in a big govournment waiting area with lots of people.
I don't think I'm attractive and often chalk my success with women to my personality, but looking back at all my exs, family members and my various friend groups, everyone around me is maybe an unironic 7 or 8 & much cuter & smarter than average but also with that quirky fun spice thrown in, implying I'm also likely, at minimum, unconventually attractive.
My daughter is also a 15/10 and my ex is a miserable cow so I take full credit for that.
Pure speculation: Around the time women evolved to find low body fat in men attractive, it would so unlikely to be fat that it would signal some type of illness/defect. Being fat when you walk 6 hours a day and eat mostly meat and whatever you can forage is an actual achievement. Leanness (relative, not necessarily 10% body fat) would be the norm, and any period of being over fat wouldn't ever last long because of the scarcity of calories.
Being attracted to the opposite sex is normal, what is not normal is being fat - which is unattractive. The default for humans is attractive, but it's so rare now that people think it's a step up.
women are attracted to your organs. There is nothing sexier than giving her a glimpse of what lays beneath that pesky outer layer of skin and muscle. The less fat and subcutaneous water, the better to get her juices flowing with a preview of what your liver is shaped like, or the particular bends and turns of your small and large intestines
Of course they ran but mainly sprinted, not marathon distance >muh tire out animals
They weren’t chasing goats for 40km. They fricking pounced and/or used tools to catch them
We simply don't know how they did it, but you're just as moronic as that other guy for stating it was for tiring out animals. But since you know so much what is the purpose of our excessive potential for long distance running if all we did was muh pouncing and muh tools.
why do you make dumbass threads?
fpbp
kys
it's healthy, masculine, and physically capable
Why is it healthy?
Why is it masculine?
Why is it physically capable?
Evolutionary? You mean you have constructed a population study or what scientific method are you exactly referring to? Because to me it sounds like you are just using philosophy here.
Why would they run great distances? They walked long distances and shot animals from afar.
There is no ability to survive without food. Your fat and muscle get burned for food, then your organs. Only protection is inactivity and low body mass.
No its just calories in versus calories out.
Humans are rational creatures.
all that contrarian effort for a (You) lmao
Nice argumentation technique there. Care to focus on the substance too? Although please dont disagree on anything there, these are all proven facts anyway.
>Nice argumentation technique there
Leanness shows muscular. Muscular strikesbour lizard brains as formidable and intimidating to men and capable of protecting and providing to women. Part of the increased desire is the effect on camera. It looks strong. It’s much harder to convey size on camera which is why shredded manlets can tear it up on Instagram and tiktok. In real life overall size becomes important as well and built(slightly)fat is on more even footing especially with shorter shredded guys
>just calories in versus calories out
hormones determine what your body does with the excess calories, moron. If you are fat then for most of history that meant you had bad genes. There wasn't gallons of soi to drink like there is today.
Holy shit tldr kys homosexual its not that hard to understand. Lean = healthy = grug brain like
Evolutionarily it doesn't make sense. Evolutionarily "dad bods" (so strong with extra fat) should be the most attractive since they indicate the fittest animals in regards to survival.
>since they indicate the fittest animals in regards to survival.
no they don't. warriors, hunters, etc. all had lean functional bodies capable of running great distances.
moronic conclusion. Perhaps they were lean because they were hunter gatherers and literally couldn't obtain more food
no, those roles are most optimally done with that type of body. tell me moron what benefit a fatty like you would provide to the tribe?
Resilience and ability to survive when there isn't food?
so nothing. you offered nothing in the way of what you'd provide just that you'd hang around a tiny bit longer to mooch. prehistoric women would be absolutely dripping for you.
that would actually be a sign that your genetics suck because it would mean you're too dumb to find reliable sources of food
>no they don't. warriors, hunters, etc. all had lean functional bodies capable of running great distances.
Tribal hunters/warriorr aren't exactly lean and muscular most of the time. They are normal/skinnyfat, no abs or anything.
those are both lean
>no abs
>lean
No, they are skinny.
>both have zero fat on them
>not lean
take meds
They are lean they just don't have abs fools.
That's it. I don't understand how you don't understand the distinction.
Literally Google "African Hunter Gatherer Tribes" and most will have their midsection covered but those that aren't do indeed show no abs, but abs do not mean low body fat.
We have been over this, you can be 5% body fat and still not see abs unless you work them out.
>Humans are rational creatures.
Hahahahhahahahah
moron
Greatest mistake in anthropology was thinking Black folk are a good study
These guys are weak and not a good model to look at, I mean there's a reason they're still in this state thousands and thousands of years later. Warriors in Europe would be a better example, people who actually won wars.
post body homosexual
>These guys are weak and not a good model to look at, I mean there's a reason they're still in this state thousands and thousands of years later.
Ye man, Europe got ahead of everyone because they were stronger and more pretty...
Eastern Europeans and Slavs do actually have strong bodies and as strong if not more than Sub-Saharan Africans actually. East and North Africans on the other hand are more suited to endurance activities than strength which is why you see a lot of long distance runners from those countries.
The amount of wrestlers, weightlifters, and fighters that came from east Europe/Slavs is not comparable to most ethnicities.
>Eastern Europeans and Slavs do actually have strong bodies and as strong if not more than Sub-Saharan Africans actually.
moron, learn to read. You think Europe got ahead because they could carry a couple lbs more than some African?
Stringer, prettier, smarter. We had it all
>no abs
wtf are you guys talking about? those dudes do have abs, they're just not flexing them.
Mirin
>using African and abo hunter gatherers as examples
This is a moronic meme. Those guys look like that because of the environment they live in and the fact that their diet is very restricted. A typical Germanic man in ancient times just as an example was eating much more meat and calorie dense food in general and was also more conditioned to developing muscle and mass due to the harsher environment and cold weather that often rapidly changed with the seasons
Even the Masai mostly only playy dress up for tourist money, still nothing wrong with that build looks like a perfect all rounder.
Not really. High T alphamales are lean even when eating a lot. They just build more muscle with the extra calories. Those builds are sexy to women also, perhaps even more so. What is not sexy are men who drink a gallon of soi a day but do some powershitter routine.
Humans are not rational creatures, humans are irrational spiritual beings to intelligent for their own good but often too unwilling to learn.
Human beings are THE rational creatures.
Frick you, commie Kant lover.
Kant was all about rationality you dumb fricking moron
Humans are more rational than any other species on the planet so yea we’re definitely rational.
The takes I read on this board, man.
some women do find this type most attractive, usually age 30+ women though
Except that any amount of extra fat reduces all kinds of physical capacity, except powerlifting I guess. But anything requiring finesse, endurance, or feats of strength that benefit more from moving gracefully than with more weight will suffer from being at all fat. Calorically speaking for lean periods there's plenty in internal fat and the liver for a long time. Not like you don't get weak as shit after only a few days of not eating anyway.
omg - and what have we been telling you this entire time? Women DO FIND dadbods the most attractive, that's what science says, studies say, anecdotes say, women asked when shown different bodies on youtube say, tiktok memes - they are not making it up. But rather than listen to all of that you apparently listen to incels.
It IS TRUE that girls under 22 or so like fellows kids and that generally means the skinnier look. After that, dadbod or even a little fatbuilt.
You type like a man trying to type like a woman
literally everything shows the opposite. lean natty limit is the most attractive
>literally everything shows the opposite. lean natty limit is the most attractive
This is false.
Literally everything shows girls like dadbods. Literally. Everything.
Did you look at the youtube video I posted?
Go look up any more sources, find anywhere they find women prefer thin people and post it here. Now don't come back with someone saying something like males like fit and trim men, I am talking about a real study or something similar, even anecdotes, about preferring really thin guys to guys with some fat.
It doesn't exist. It is a homosexual thing and/or for bodybuilding competitions.
The proof is that never has a "dadbod" been featured in the cover of female targeted serial romance books which are also typically written by women. Basically you're a fat coper
Are these what women think are dadbods? Just goes to show how moronic women are
>T-that's not what I meant. I-I was talking about something different!
These dudes do not have the traditional tapered look they are supposed to have, they have what more resembles a dadbod or builtfat body. Remember that this is the absolute pinnacle of female desire here. A little more fat and a little less muscle isn't going to destroy your chances.
The reason you think a tapered look looks good is because literally - your male brain prefers a tapered look and it can't get out of that thinking process.
That taper you are thinking of is pretty much genetics. Or just absurd amounts if muscle creating it on a heavy roider. Those guys are very lean and in exceptional shape. I hope you are baiting.
the guy in pic you replied to does not have a dad bod, you colossal wiener sucking dysmorphic homosexual
Jesus christ your deranged foid brain really thinks that roided out man has a dadbod? That guy has no fricking fat and chiseled abs, to claim dadbod is absurd.
You're a fricking moron.
good morning sirs
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>Literally everything shows girls like dadbods. Literally. Everything.
What the frick you homies talking about?
“women were more willing to have short-term relations with muscular men without the requirement that they demonstrate characteristics particularly desired in long-term mates (trustworthiness, emotional closeness, etc.), possibly because these men possessed physical indicators of genetic fitness.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201907/5-reasons-why-muscles-matter-women-and-men
>reddit spacing
>redditor studies show dysgenic roasties like dadbods
pottery
>EvOluTiOnArILy
>heres my opinion pulled straight out of my ass
Insufferable armchair scientists like you are mega homosexuals.
Not really fatso. Hunters used to outrun animals with endurance so lean guys would be more attractive evolution wise. But now days with the abundance of food is different.
Not defending that guy because he's moronic but you're also moronic for thinking persistence running is practical or has ever been or that it is representative of how a large portion of humanity evolved. I mean, you go right nexr door to supposed persistence hunters and nigs are built like gorillas and they're just as primitive a people group. Plus persistence hunting has never actually been shown to be practical. The instances of it happening were either staged or ironically one time by people in Siberia who were lost.
Dad bod is indicative of disfunction in androgenic signaling. Masculine behavior (or the testosterone your body releases in response) not only makes you muscular, but shredded too. Yes dad bod can survive the winter, but leanbulked bod is indicative of someone with masculine behavior, like acquiring the resources necessary to survive said winter, aggressively if necessary. Steal dadbod's food supply with your superior mental acuity and fighting stamina!
>Dad bod is indicative of disfunction in androgenic signaling
Nowadays? No way, Its not the best body but it easily mogs most of the population which is comprised of obese people,fat people,skinny-fat people and skinny people.
Easily top 10% body,It just so happens shredded body is even above,top 5% ,close to 1%
But lets not fool ourselves most people look like shit.
evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
If I had to come up with a napkin theory for why leanness might be attractive to women I would say time of year might have a lot to do with it.
Spring is around when carbs start to grow but through spring there's not a lot of them. Although at the time your dudes probably don't look really muscular because no glycogen. The moment they start getting those carbs glycogen comes back but they're still lean probably also their first surplus in around 4-5 months so they're probably horny as hell. Around late spring mid summer would probably be the best time for woman to get pregnant because it means the baby is less likely to die from to the elements before it has a chance to put on enough weight. This is completely out my ass but I think if I had like a few hours I could come up with supporting sources to make dumb people believe it.
>evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
No, we're social animals, it's why even past our sexual prime we still have a function it's passing on knowledge to the younger generations. It's why older people in almost every culture and time except ours has been revered as a source of knowledge and a lynchpin of the community.
still cope, a long and revered tradition of coping is coping nonetheless. Not that coping doesn't have utility you're just bad meat and if you haven't had kids by then you're probably double coping.
>still cope, a long and revered tradition of coping is coping nonetheless.
I don't even know how te responf to mentally ill failures like you.
>Not that coping doesn't have utility
Schizo moron.
>you're just bad meat and if you haven't had kids by then you're probably double coping.
So you're just useless if you don't have kids but beyond kids you don't have any purpose beyond living past 25
like you posted there. ell me how I know you don't have kids and grew up n a very dysfuntional family. Do you even know your father?
I had kids before I was 21.
You are so mad, bet you thought you could make it after 30.
lmao
>I had kids before I was 21.
So by your logic you should die in 4 years, since muh no function.
>You are so mad,
Taking about cope
> bet you thought you could make it after 30.
Said the thing that peaked at 16.
This is how I know you're just absolutely seething right now. People over 25 don't have the same imperative to be sexually attractive because they're already past prime. Trying to be sexually attractive past your prime is cope mostly by people who didn't get laid enough in their prime to be tired of chasing prostitutes by then. It has nothing to do with them being useless or whatever shit you're projecting in there to try to make it say what you want it to.
>This is how I know you're just absolutely seething right now
Seethe , cope, fren, no cap. Ofcourse you had kids by 21.
>eople over 25 don't have the same imperative to be sexually attractive because they're already past prime.
Learn to read you wigger, humans have a function past muh prime sexuality. Passing on knowledge is a thing among social animals, the fact that you ignored that makes me wonder do you or even your mother knoww who the sperm donor was?
> Trying to be sexually attractive past your prime is cope
Lol as if being sexually aaatractive is your only function
>mostly by people who didn't get laid enough in their prime to be tired of chasing prostitutes by then.
Maybe Freud was right looking at your moronic posts.
>It has nothing to do with them being useless or whatever shit you're projecting in there to try to make it say what you want it to.
You have the memory of a goldfish, humans having no function beyond muh 25 was the whole pivot of your galaxy brain posts.
>You have the memory of a goldfish, humans having no function beyond muh 25 was the whole pivot of your galaxy brain posts.
I said
>evolutionarily everything past your mid 20's is cope
and it is. That is not the same as saying humans have no function past 25. You are 100% projecting your own agendas onto my posts because you're emotional and probably old.
mid 30's is literally sexual prime for White men lmao
for White girls/women, it's from period to maybe 25 (on average)
I would say mid twenties is like an averaged estimate. Asians and whites enter puberty later and boys enter puberty generally after girls as well. Blacks, hispanics, arabs tend to enter puberty earlier and it ends sooner. I wouldn't say mid 30's is average for anyone. It might be good for you because you're getting more DHT and if you're baby faced or can't beard that's when you might look more like a man but I would still say that's on the downslope early downslope though.
i'll be in my prime for at least another decade, until late 40s
i've always been extremely good looking, elite, etc.
superior (Aryan) genetics dude, simple as
Carbs don't make you fat. Winter wasn't as foodless for hunter gatherers as for farmers.
a higher carb diet will certainly make you fatter easier if you don't have as much activity to mitigate it. If carbs are more available and game is leaner you don't have to range as far to get fed. Also your game in winter and spring are going to be leanest of the year so even dietary fat they're probably low on around then. I doubt any primitive peoples were eating a surplus or perfect maintenance year round.
None of this matters though because it's not real it's just bullshit I made up.
No matter whether they were ranging a bit less they had way more activity than contemporary man.
>a bit less
it's like the difference between 200-300kcal per hour * the number of individuals hunting and like sitting around eating whatever until it's gone after a few days and moving on.
You really think anyone was expending that much from moving all day literally every day?
yes, even more than that if you include maintenance and take into account some populations being bigger than modern humans. We could only get that big since our hunt success rate so insanely higher than other animals.
You hunt a mammoth or several and you're in place for days if not more.
I think mammoth is kind of larpy and reindeer is probably more realistic for a much longer period of time
Mammoths were unironically easier to hunt and track. Literally just scare them off a cliff
>t. american lard elemental
>tfw just ate a pizza
go on without me lean bros...
Fed enough to successfully hunt, fat enough to stay warm
That body pretty much is my goal.
It just is, there may be an evolutionary reason for it but it doesn't really signify anything other than showing off your musculature. As others have said a dad bod physique like pic rel SHOULD be much more attractive to women as it shows he has ample food sources in order to be a bit fat.
The truth of the matter is that humans don't just sexually select for traits that are evolutionary beneficial e.g. light eyes. Some people say that they are better for seeing in the night but at the end of the day people aren't going to be able to measure that thousands of years ago and it's just purely based on aesthetics.
Here is a meme video about it: https://odysee.com/@looksmaximus:5/island:896
This is Robert Sapolsky lecturing at Stanford about human sexual selection: https://youtu.be/LOY3QH_jOtE
That video is very interesting however I would look for the lecture centered on sexual selection within mammals and it gives you a much better understanding of our own sexual selection as people are free to talk about it and study it without ethics or morality getting in the way.
>As others have said a dad bod physique like pic rel SHOULD be much more attractive to women
samegay
>light eyes
light eyes are the sign of a more evolved and more trustworthy person
every race with predominantly dark eyes are closer to monkeys (who also have predominantly dark eyes) on the evolutionary chain
sorry (not sorry) but this is just facts
that sounds like moronic racial science.
it's logic + reality
stay mad
Your unhinged opinions aren’t reality
>opinions
*facts
FTFY
you're almost there, it has to do with the fact that you can see the pupils easier. your primitive brain is scanning for deception constantly and the pupils give away alot
shut the frick up monkey Black person
rude
>The truth of the matter is that humans don't just sexually select for traits that are evolutionary beneficial e.g. light eyes.
Wrong, lighter eyes help distinguish between colors in high light conditions (whiteout), this is why huskies have blue eyes. Several species of polar birds, as well.
sorry about your obesity
>sorry about your obesity
>y-your not fat? you must be a skele!
>t. obese moron who can't comprehend someone being physically fit and strong
>>y-your not fat? you must be a skele!
>>t. obese moron who can't comprehend someone being physically fit and strong
this has to be bait
put me in the screencap
kys
lol you know you give yourself away by how you post right? no one fit would think it's impossible other posters are too. only incels doubt every post about getting laid easy on here. etc.
please lose weight
how many more times are you gonna samegay itt?
>how many more times are you gonna samegay itt?
>45 mins for an inspect element edit
really?
>inspect element
u srs? we just click a button now grandpa
You can reply without quoting entire posts moron
Now that's just moronic
I think it just shows clarity of the body and a groin indicator
Less bodyfat = your muscles are clearer to see
It shows discipline and exposes your hard work for people to see
It’s not necessarily the vascularity, the definition of an Adonis belt and muscles, the attractiveness is stemmed from seeing someone that has an iron will
Because it's NOT FAT
We live in a world where the average person is fat and stupid.
Being lean requires at least some higher intelligence (not overeating 24/7 like an animal) and a level of wealth that allows you to spend time lifting/running/etc. and eating healthy foods [occasionally]
TL;DR
Being fat is a sign of someone who is stupid with low will-power and low-medium socioeconomic status. Leanness is the opposite
>the strongobese cope ITT
they can't help themselves in every thread
>I CAN'T BREED
Being fat is unnatural.
this
we have spent hundreds of thousands of years taking the leanpill. fatties literally do not register as human
women want to eat cheeseburders an frick healthy things just look at what they do to a cucumber
>just look at what they do to a cucumber
they turn it into a pickle?
>lol you know you give yourself away by how you post right? no one fit would think it's impossible other posters are too. only incels doubt every post about getting laid easy on here. etc.
>please lose weight
Because it's healthy dumbass
The human body considers extraneous fat so detrimental that it evolved to keep it as close to the center of gravity as possible because it fricks extremity movement otherwise. There's literally no argument for fat beyond muh emergency calories. But that one is moronic because we already have storage besides subcutaneous fat and you're fricking up if you go that long without as a hunter/gatherer. It's actually farmers who are more likely to have long periods of no good food. Which happens to also be a large part of why farmers die so easy from diseases.
Actually polynesians are inclined to carry extra weight really easily. But it's basically because they are incredibly cold adapted and applies to muscle not just fat.
>45 mins for an inspect element edit
>really?
>brown
Triggered fatties and dyels itt.
To answer your question op, leanness by itself is not sexy. A leaner muscular physique is attractive because the muscles pop out more, indicating strength. Muscles are sexy even on a body that is carrying more fat, hence the dad bod. Nobody finds a skelly sexy by itself, but as the incels say, a strong jaw can do wonders.
/thread
>tfw cryptocrash weight
>tfw still look fat
feels bad man
(almost 67kgs at 172cm and shit tier body despite lifting)
Btw I was 80 soemthing kilos before,
I though I was gonna be shredded at 72 kilos LMAO!
More like 65kgs to look decent,probably 64kgs.
i went from 81 to 62, and now i look shredded, 174cm
Thats great bro,people really underestimate how much weight they have to lose,now time time to do a slow bulk right?
Thats whay Im gonna do once I hit my goal body,but I will try to no go over 70kilos in a year,preferably 68kgs at most.
yeah im trying to clean bulk, i want to steal have leanness
great transformation,slow bulk is the best bulk.
I went from 82 to 76 in a month and the only change was my upper chest, face and vascularity of forearms when curling.
Still gotta cut another 6kg or so for that waistline myself, but I've been slowly bulking for 2 years now.
>so sexy
idk. I don't care about pleasing homosexuals. I lift for strength
You lift to please yourself so you clearly care, homosexual.
What women consider dadbod - guy with huge six pack and 15 percent bodyfat
What anon thinks dadbod is: amorphous belly on 25% bf brown guy
Had a pleasant epiphany recently when sitting in a big govournment waiting area with lots of people.
I don't think I'm attractive and often chalk my success with women to my personality, but looking back at all my exs, family members and my various friend groups, everyone around me is maybe an unironic 7 or 8 & much cuter & smarter than average but also with that quirky fun spice thrown in, implying I'm also likely, at minimum, unconventually attractive.
My daughter is also a 15/10 and my ex is a miserable cow so I take full credit for that.
I should get lean and learn to take photos
What does this have to do with the thread Black personhomosexual boomer
Absolutely nothing,
Go to /hm/ next time you feel like gargling cum
Nice blogpost gay
Pure speculation: Around the time women evolved to find low body fat in men attractive, it would so unlikely to be fat that it would signal some type of illness/defect. Being fat when you walk 6 hours a day and eat mostly meat and whatever you can forage is an actual achievement. Leanness (relative, not necessarily 10% body fat) would be the norm, and any period of being over fat wouldn't ever last long because of the scarcity of calories.
Being attracted to the opposite sex is normal, what is not normal is being fat - which is unattractive. The default for humans is attractive, but it's so rare now that people think it's a step up.
women are attracted to your organs. There is nothing sexier than giving her a glimpse of what lays beneath that pesky outer layer of skin and muscle. The less fat and subcutaneous water, the better to get her juices flowing with a preview of what your liver is shaped like, or the particular bends and turns of your small and large intestines
it's not.
at one point in time I probably would look at this pic and think damn that is a good physique and he looks strong
it isn't until I far surpassed this physique already that I realize how weak and effeminate it is and not at all what I want to look like
>sweats profusely typing two paragraphs
>reddit spacing
>fat powershitter phenotype coping
pottery
because it looks good, duh.
>cavemen didn't roon
>dadbod should be attractive to people without daddy issues
lol
Of course they ran but mainly sprinted, not marathon distance
>muh tire out animals
They weren’t chasing goats for 40km. They fricking pounced and/or used tools to catch them
We simply don't know how they did it, but you're just as moronic as that other guy for stating it was for tiring out animals. But since you know so much what is the purpose of our excessive potential for long distance running if all we did was muh pouncing and muh tools.
Every single motherfricker on this sub is the one that mentions chasing animals to exhaustion
We trekked for marathon distances but we never ran it