Calling out Natural Hypertrophy
>He is going to Planet Fitness exclusively now
>He is running
Probably become trans next
He is a mad man
Should be institutionalized
Is this the fate of all powershitters?
wtf is his problem
Calling out Natural Hypertrophy
Apart from the vegan shit I don't see a problem with that. Planet Fitness is pretty ok if you don't use it like its average customer does and doing cardio like running next up resistive exercise is also a decent idea.
From experience at Planet Fitness, what keeps me from going back isn't the quality of the gym itself but rather the quality of their average customer.
I'm trapped at one because it's the only game in town and no space for home gym. I have three major problems with planet fitness:
1. The dumbbells only go up to 75lbs which as it happens is my current 10 rep military press number. 45s through 75s are sufficient for a lot of other exercises I do, but if I want to go up in weight I have to do seated OHP on a smith machine because...
2. They only fucking have smith machines and no barbell racks, no squat racks, nothing. I hate it. It's the absolute worst thing about the gym overall, the total lack of free weights outside of dumbbells.
3. The smith machines they DO have, they only have three of. The dumbbell area has about 4 or 5 adjustable benches. That's it. Half the fucking gym is cardio machines which I've never seen even being 50% utilized, but I go there even at 10 PM and there are huge crowds of people clogging up the dumbbells and smith machines, it's absolutely fucking ridiculous. They need more weights.
The people are a weird thing. For a long time I'd see a lot of the same people on my routine nights. Now it's down to fewer and fewer people and more and more people I don't recognize and I've never ever seen before. They come and go, it seems to fluctuate around certain things (not just New Year's resolutioners). I don't care if new people or regulars are at a gym or anything, I don't care if they're doing meme exercises with retarded form but a lot of these new strangers have ABSOLUTELY ZERO ETIQUETTE. Like last week one of the scarce smith machines which my brother and I wanted to use for incline press because we need to put like 230 on it and 75lb dumbbells won't do the trick, was being camped on by a pack of 3 skanky looking girls. They did some meme exercise for 30 seconds, then sat down gossiping and looking at their phones for a solid 10 minutes between sets. Then they moved on to squats, then to pelvic thrusts, on and on and on 1 hour they took. A whole fucking hour.
I don't know what costumer service is like at PT but could you not ask about getting more free weights and also asking staff to be more on top of campers? If it's just you maybe they'll ignore it but it can't be that hard to get a decent number of dedicated gym goers to all speak up about it, right? You are paying for the service, not just the weights, after all.
I can’t believe it’s the only gym in town. Buddy, please take the bus to the next town. Won’t hurt.
>Apart from the vegan shit I don't see a problem with that.
What's wrong with being vegan (so long as you're not the preachy, caricature of a vegan)? Clarence Kennedy is a vegan, so you can be strong without eating animal products.
this is how he looks off cycle
Yeah, he hasn't been lifting much and has been trying to lose weight (he's still strong there though). Honestly, I'm not even sure if he's off cycle there.
Everyone on youtube is roiding, that isn't a good argument. Guess what??? Some people that eat meat, also roid! I know it's shocking
>why i deflate
he's literally bounced back to his old strength and size within a month, gay
1 month later
Any athlete that goes vegan tends to fall off or get injured. Veganism is not compatible with optimal performance. Grow up and eat animal products of just be a weaker human being. Simple as.
Do you have any data to back this up, or is it purely anecdotal? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I haven't seen the evidence.
Humans need nutrients that come from animal products. Plant based supplement alternatives don't cut it and it's why the vast majority of vegans end up quitting the fad diet. No I will not provide any data because it is known.
>No I will not provide any data because it is known.
kek yeah, that's about what I figured you'd come back with. You're a deep thinker, anon; very well-reasoned.
Humans need animal protein
Either a bad troll or a genuine 70 IQ poster
I take it that your vegan diet has damaged your brain. Brain fog is a common symptom that vegans suffer from.
vegans got mindbroken so hard they need you to provide data for common sense
If it's so common then you would think it would be easy to provide evidence.
>he doesn't know about principia mathematica
sounds white supremist-y
It's not that simple, and obviously you don't understand it. You'd need to know more about how food works for it to an obvious fact, it SHOULD be common sense. It's probably not worth trying to argue with you anyway, being able to stick to veganism against all common sense shows nobody can convince you. Just know that if your teeth start rotting, your digestion sucks, get exczema/acne, brainfog or if you (become) a weak gay in general it's probably from the veganism
and animal fat
do you need evidence? animals are rewarded with superior nutrition for killing. this is why weak animals eat leaves and strong ones eat meat+
Except Rabbits which have strong af legs and huge need to breed and they hop everywhere...
Ever heard of the quip "fucking like rabbits?"
i'd like to see a rabbit beat a lion
Lion wouldn't be able to catch a Rabbit and neither would the want to really, too little to gain from catching a Rabbit, thus they get away, beating the lion.
>Lion wouldn't be able to catch a Rabbit
lions are faster though, so why would they not be able to catch them?
I'd like to see a lion beat an elephant, rhino, gorilla, etc etc
Dumb fucking argument because humans aren't any of the above, or lions either. We're lanky dyel hairless chimps
what retard? he said rabbits were strong, when they get btfo by any animal especially a lion, no one mentioned humans
They need a lot of offspring because like 70% get eaten before they can reproduce
What are hippos, gorillas, pandas, rhinos
Monkeys are cannibals anon, have you not watched Joe Rogan oh also, have you heard of DMT?
Unfortunately, you need supplements to not become one of those "fat, yet malnourished"
Every single one of those "but he is vegan and jacked!" youtube guys is on PEDs. Otherwise they look like that MovementbyDavid youtube channel, complete DYEL
Yes, the vegan and jacked guys on YouTube are all on gear, so are the non-vegan and jacked guys on YouTube.
I'm sensing a pattern here
what about v3gan gains. You're gonna tell me he's not natty?
Nah but he fucks fatties
Open steroid user.
So? Do you really think Clarence Kennedy isn't strong, even for a guy who openly uses steroids? His 410kg total is incredible, and he was somewhere around 100kg when he did it.
Where did he say exclusively? Dumbass he owns a fucking gym. He also isn't vegan he just made a video showing how you can get your macros in a healthy way on a vegan diet.
NH-pilled Alan is the best timeline.
What did he call him out on? I haven't watched YT fitness stuff in a while
I think op is an esl because it was more of a shoutout than a callout
OP is trying to say that NH needs to be called out for corrupting Alan or some shit. Alan didn't call him out at all; he said he's been watching NH a lot lately and it's inspired him to dedicate the rest of the year to hypertrophy. Also gave a shoutout to Hersovyac.
Record yourself maxing all the machines and dumbbells at Planet Fitness. Do you know how many fat, unathletic boomers go to these le epic strongman gyms? The type of gym you go to doesn't matter, weight is weight.
It's just content
Are you retarded?
He said he was watching NH, and set out to show how you can get gainz even while vegan at a shitty discount gym
The whole video was to show that you don't have to work out at an exclusive powerlifting gym to get a decent workout, and when did Alan ever declare he was going vegan aside from making one video experimenting with the concept of not eating meat for one (1) day?
>didn't watch the video
>made a retarded post on IST
Free advertising for the Train On Time man though so I guess every cloud has a silver lining, Alan is cool in my book.
its fucking incredible how distorted this op's view of things are. Like mental illness tier
You need to expose yourself to the real world a bit more. If you really care about training, you should have the capacity to go to whatever gym you have available and do whatever you can with what you have available. He said he's focusing on hypertrophy, so he won't need as much weights or specific equipment as he usually utilizes, Planet Fitness might be shitty and might not have the most gym savvy crowd, but you're there to get workout, not to discuss training philosophy with randoms.
Being vegan is fine, I wouldn't do it, but there's nothing wrong with it, let people experiment with their diets, training, lives. He will decide if it works for him or not.
The only thing I have to ask is: What's NH's appeal? He has never said anything that haven't been said 100s of times before by 100s of people with different backgrounds and areas of expertise. That also goes for his pseudo-philosophy rants, it's just generic "hypersexualised society bad" which, sure, but I have been hearing the same rant since I was a teen, minus the pretentious Nietzsche misinterpretations
>The only thing I have to ask is: What's NH's appeal? He has never said anything that haven't been said 100s of times before by 100s of people with different backgrounds and areas of expertise. That also goes for his pseudo-philosophy rants, it's just generic "hypersexualised society bad" which, sure, but I have been hearing the same rant since I was a teen, minus the pretentious Nietzsche misinterpretations
I don't know what exactly is so derivitive about him according to you, but NH has been absolutely instrumental in reviving natural bodybuilding, especially on YouTube. Before him there were some lifters that were natty, but the difference with NH isn't just that he's natty, it's that he's natty and he relishes in it, he takes pride in it, because he truly believes it is the right to do. Beyond that he just generally gives good advice. Maybe that advice has been said before, but who cares? He concentrates it to one channel.
Planet Fitness is lowkey goated with the sauce if you know what you are doing and go at the right time
Made all my gains there
Glad that people shit on it, more room for me
seeing him train in planet fitness made him seem less like an experienced elite level strength athlete and instead more of a run-of-the-mill gymbro
>eats vegan for a day
>eats pretend meat
>eats pretend hamburger
>eats pretend ice cream
Am I the only person who finds this ridiculous? Why do vegans try so hard to imitate non-vegan foods? How can you say veganism is good and then try your hardest to imitate a diet full of meat and cream and other animal products? What an utterly bizarre way of living.
>for 125g of protein
It's almost like they want the taste and familiarity of meat without the animal abuse. I don't see how you could be so dense to not understand that.
>they want the taste and familiarity of meat without the animal abuse
You can eat animals without abusing them. Do you think eating an animal is abuse? Morally putting yourself above the reality of life that is the food chain is hubris.
>industrial farming bad
Not all meat comes from factories, obviously.
>You can eat animals without abusing them. Do you think eating an animal is abuse?
In what world is taking the life of something that doesn't want to die not a form of abuse?
>Morally putting yourself above the reality of life that is the food chain is hubris.
Who fucking cares.
stay in school kids
>In what world is taking the life of something that doesn't want to die not a form of abuse?
In the world we live in. But you don't actually care what the world we live in is like because you live in a fabricated reality where nothing has to ever die for your benefit, as you said yourself:
>Who fucking cares.
Wait till you find out what monocrop agriculture (the thing you depend on) does to entire ecosystems and how many thousands of animals die or are displaced every year for your vegan food.
Take a guess at how many bees die every year for the production of almond milk. What a delusional idiot.
>In the world we live in. But you don't actually care what the world we live in is like because you live in a fabricated reality where nothing has to ever die for your benefit
God forbid we try to lower suffering.
>Wait till you find out what monocrop agriculture (the thing you depend on) does to entire ecosystems and how many thousands of animals die or are displaced every year for your vegan food.
Retard. Livestock eat more than double the plants humans do.
>Take a guess at how many bees die every year for the production of almond milk. What a delusional idiot.
DIdn't know that drinking almond milk was a requirement for vegans.
What point are you even trying to make? People eat beef in Brazil therefore it's ok for you to support monocrop agriculture that rapes US soil and destroys ecosystems?
>cows eat more plants than humans
Uh yeah because cows are herbivores and we aren't LOL
>pretending almonds aren't important foods for vegans
idk why you are even replying at this point.
This dude thinks smaller animals suffer less than big animals, therefore it's ok to kill thousands of bees and mice and birds instead of eating 1 cow over the course of an entire year. What a moron.
My point is the majority of crops grown are fed to livestock. If you stop eating meat, we will need to grow less food to feed the livestock. Which will result in less crop deaths.
almonds aren't important foods for vegans
What makes them important? I have not bought almond milk in years.
Just about every "vegan" food (plant milks and fake meats) have B12 added to it. It is very easy to get b12 on a vegan diet.
Then don't be malnourished. Pic related.
Who cares if someone does that as long as nobody is killed.
There is tons of evidence supporting plant based diets. Pretty sure OP was attacking Alan Thrall for veganism, not the other way around.
Craving something =/= your body needs it.
>don't be malnourished
my bad, instead of eating real food i'll just take 500 supplements
Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?
Oh no! protein powder? on a fitness board? fine replace it with pic related.
>Supplements don't replace real food.
Yeah no shit, thats why they're called "supplements". I'll repeat what I said at the beginning of the post: "Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?"
>Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?
One isn't real or normal, just like a wig on a bald head isn't just as good as having hair.
No, "bulk supplements." "Bulk supplements" makes all of your micros meaningless, because "bulk supplements" don't have the same nutrition as food. I don't know how you missed that and thought I was referring to "protein powder." The image is pretty big.
>what's the difference between vitamins and real food
lmao'ing that you need "science" to tell you the answer to this. Ok, here it is:
>Association Among Dietary Supplement Use, Nutrient Intake, and Mortality Among U.S. Adults
>Adequate intake (at or above the Estimated Average Requirement or the Adequate Intake level) of vitamin A, vitamin K, magnesium, zinc, and copper was associated with reduced all-cause or CVD mortality, but the associations were restricted to nutrient intake from foods.
>Their systematic reviews and meta-analyses showed generally moderate- or low-quality evidence for preventive benefits (folic acid for total cardiovascular disease,folic acidand B-vitamins for stroke), no effect (multivitamins,vitamins C, D, β-carotene, calcium,and selenium), or increased risk (antioxidant mixtures andniacin[with a statin] for all-cause mortality).
>Conclusive evidence for the benefit of any supplement across all dietary backgrounds (including deficiency and sufficiency) was not demonstrated; therefore, any benefits seen must be balanced against possible risks.
>The majority of scientific studies investigating the use of MVM supplements in chronic disease risk reduction reported no significant effect.
>Vitamin and mineral supplementation was associated with little or no benefit in preventing cancer, cardiovascular disease, and death
>There is tons of evidence supporting plant based diets.
read my comment again and come back to me
You know this makes your chronometer meaningless, right?
Your diet could consist of white sugar, psyllium husk, protein powder and oil as long as it has this and you would be deluded into thinking you had a great chronometer.
What a moron lmao
>It is very easy to get b12 on a vegan diet.
Supplements don't replace real food.
>why is this food group important for veganism as a whole if I don't eat it?
Veganism increases suffering, though. Being a vegan makes you depressed and anxious because of the lack of vitamins, especially B12. The extreme pesticide load probably doesn't help either.
>Meat consumption was associated with lower depression and lower anxiety compared to meat abstention.
>Compared to vegans, meat consumers experienced both lower depression and anxiety.
>The analysis also showed that the more rigorous the study, the more positive and consistent the relation between meat consumption and better mental health.
>Our results show that meat abstention is clearly associated with poorer mental health, specifically higher levels of both depression and anxiety.
statistics mean nothing to the individual. If a person's health is suffering due to veganism, they can adjust and make concessions until they reach a point where they balance between their own health and their moral position. To say vegans increase suffering because they don't enjoy meat is dumb and hyperbolic.
>reality doesn't apply to me because I'm special
>veganism doesn't increase suffering even if it statistically does because I'm special
I'm not a vegan, I'm just not some petty retard that gets insulted by anyone who's lifestyle is different than mine.
this is a pretty good reply to EPICALLY DESTROY AND OWN anything regardless of what it is, your neigbor is a meth addict? stop being a petty retard
You replied to me with some middle school bully stupidity, I point it out, and then you reply with scizoposting.
not me but okay anyways you should always care about others lifestyles
tell me why i should suffer from malnutrition for years so that a cow doesn't feel pain for 4 seconds
So you can cause the suffering of thousands/millions of smaller animals that you can pretend don't exist (who die or are displaced from massive crop fields that deplete soil and destroy the land). Veganism is a mental illness.
humans evolved eating animals and thinking that we can somehow engineer our own "optimal" diet is pure naivety. nutritional science is based on unreliable methods and we still know little about our bodies. if you still want to risk your health for the sake of """optimizing""" your health or """saving""" the planet then go for it but leave the well-adjusted and non-self-loathing people alone
>wah wah wah deforestation!
i never got this meme. its literally trees, you can just replant them. not like they are not going to replant them, because then their business model wouldn't work.
You should live in the wild for a bit to get some context for what an animal actually is. Just about everything in the animal kingdom wants you dead even if it doesn't want to eat you. A squirrel would kill you if it knew it could. Humans throughout history have been so successful at being at the top of the food chain that we not only have shaped entire species to suit us but are also responsible for a mass extinction event across the planet when we migrated out of Africa. This idea of being lovey dovey to animals other than your own species for the sake of feeling good with no ulterior motive is unique to modern people and isn't something worth considering when if it was reversed they'd be just as cruel to us
> A squirrel would kill you if it knew it could
I don't think so. I see a lot of squirrels hanging with smaller animals it could kill, they seem to just ignore each other.
>This idea of being lovey dovey to animals other than your own species for the sake of feeling good with no ulterior motive is unique to modern people and isn't something worth considering when if it was reversed they'd be just as cruel to us
Yeah I don't really see a problem with this. Guess I'm just a better person than you.
What exactly is wrong with the logic in that picture? We can respect the life and empathize of another being who can experience fear, pain, joy, sadness similar to us without following their moral code.
Are vegans autistic?
They seem to conflate the concept of
>hurting a dog for fun
which is just cruel and sadistic, with the idea of shooting prey game and eating it.
Were you all just on the spectrum all along? Makes the most sense.
because he is absolutely dumb as fucking brick and underaged
Imagine if we were in a society that commonly ate human and non human eaters ate things to replicate human meat, that's what you do vegans
Because the companies selling the products are trying to stay in business
I think you missed the point. The more important reason (AKA the reason companies do that to stay in business) is because humans are hard-wired to crave animal-based foods, as scientific research shows us (see below). Vegans imitate non-vegan foods because they crave them, no matter what they (subjectively) say. It's an innate cognitive dissonance.
We can extract from this that a vegan diet is obviously not a good one if our body is hard-wired to be against it. We could use nutritional science, etc. to prove this (lack of essential micronutrients, lack of important micronutrients for athleticism, and so on), but I think common sense does fine enough.
>Twenty-four vegetarians and twenty-one omnivores were instructed to either passively look at the pictures or to change the appetitive value of the food
>In contrast with the subjective data, no group differences were observed in any of the ERP measures, suggesting that similar neural processing of food-cues occurred in vegetarians and omnivores both during passive viewing and cognitive reappraisal.
>Overall, our findings suggest that, in vegetarians, aversion towards nonvegetarian food prevails at the subjective level and is consistent with their personal beliefs. In contrast, at the neural level, the intrinsic motivational salience of this type of food is preserved.
I am craving chocolate/booze/cocaine cake right now. Must mean I can't live without it. Fucking room temperature IQ take. Most vegans grew up with burgers, pizza, and ice cream. They might still want to enjoy those foods, without going against their morals. I don't get what's so hard about that.
pretty weird to try to replicate a result of something you see as equivelant to cannabalism, imagine if i made a fake human out of pork while insisting eating humans is bad
>I am craving chocolate/booze/cocaine cake right now.
What? Did you even read any of the greentext? The study is saying "vegans crave meat as much as non-vegans, despite them saying they don't like meat at all." That has nothing to do with doing cocaine or alcoholism.
Is English your second language or something? The point is that humans are hard-wired to eat animal-based foods.
>"vegans crave meat as much as non-vegans, despite them saying they don't like meat at all."
nta, his point was that he thinks the same could be likely found for other substances that are not beneficial to one's health, like
>[some] sober people crave chocolate/alcohol/other drugs as much as people who do indulge in said substances, despite them saying they don't like chocolate/alcohol/other drugs at all"
If with nothing else I think this would hold for sugar, and likely many other unhealthy foods also.
Hence "x is good and necessary for optimal function" not necessarily following from "humans crave x".
And that's a shitty comparison because those are addictive things and the foods in question in the study aren't addictive. No one is addicted to meat. No one is addicted to eggs. Comparing those to refined sugar and cocaine and alcohol is utterly retarded.
>No one is addicted to meat. No one is addicted to eggs.
Have you seen this board
Can you be addicted to water?
Water isn't addictive. Drinking excessive water is not "addiction," even if a mental illness is involved. The problem wouldn't be addiction, but that specific mental illness. I thought you were joking at first, but if you're serious, this is a really stupid conversation.
I know you might be joking, but it's really important to point out that meat and eggs aren't capable of causing addiction like refined sugar, cocaine and alcohol are. Of course an individual can be addicted to eating if they have some kind of disorder, and the foods they eat might include meat or eggs, but that's not at all what this conversation is about.
>Vegans imitate non-vegan foods because they crave them, no matter what they (subjectively) say. It's an innate cognitive dissonance.
I don't get the insult. Most vegans absolutely know and understand meat tastes better. There is no dissonance. You're just being arbitrarily petty.
We also have supplements that can replace meat and dairy. We're not animals living the wild, so they simply choose not to eat meat because of their moral positions. There's not some delusion or deceit going on. They actively chose to sacrifice their wants in a way that can work for some individuals.
>There is no dissonance.
If the words you are saying don't match what you actually think, that is dissonance. And that's exactly what the study shows.
>We also have supplements that can replace meat and dairy.
No you don't lol. Supplements don't replace food. Countless evidence shows this (let me know if you don't believe me).
>there's no delusion going on
If the words you are saying about what you want are contrary to what your brain actually wants, that is delusion.
It's weird you call me "arbitrarily petty" before going on to completely deny the meaning of words and reality.
>If the words you are saying don't match what you actually think, that is dissonance. And that's exactly what the study shows.
The study does not show what people said, stop trying to apply the study beyond what it actually observed. If vegans insist they start to find the taste of meat bad because of their distance from it, its possible and they may be bullshitting others, but for the most part, vegans won't deny that it tastes good. Just that the idea of meat might disgust them.
>No you don't lol. Supplements don't replace food. Countless evidence shows this (let me know if you don't believe me).
"countless studies" shows what happens on average. There are people in those many studies that have no issues switching to a vegan diet with supplements. Some individuals can handle it, some can't. Humans aren't carbon copies of each other. EVERYTHING in medicine has exceptions, but you seem to think only veganism doesn't, even though the studies show otherwise?
>If the words you are saying about what you want are contrary to what your brain actually wants, that is delusion.
I mean, if you make up definitions. I like punching fallacious retards like you in the face, doesn't mean I'm going around and doing it.
>The study does not show what people said
What are you talking about? What do you think the "subjective data" is? Did you even read the study?
>I like to punch people like you in the face!
Hahaha cool down there tough guy!
>more nonsense about how people are special so reality doesn't matter
>What are you talking about? What do you think the "subjective data" is? Did you even read the study?
Did you read the study? 50ish people (too small of a sample) were told to look at a food they found appetizing. both groups looked at the meat as more appetizing. That's it. That's all the study described. Vegans that said they saw meat as disgusting weren't turned off by the taste, but in the same way you can want something but be disgusted by the moral implications of taking that thing. Nothing in this study is as concrete as you insist.
>Hahaha cool down there tough guy!
I'm not mad, it would just be fun to do.
>handwaves away any argument that contradicts his stupidity
Yep, say, "studies" again.
>weren't turned off by the taste
wtf are you talking about you delusional retard? The study wasn't measuring "taste," it was measuring cognitive appraisal via neural processing (brain waves). Your ability to make up things like a complete psychopath is impressive but horrifying.
>50ish people (too small of a sample)
This isn't an epidemiology study so this statement is incorrect because it's meaningless.
>I like punching fallacious retards like you in the face
Many such cases:
I'm not taking part in the argument, I just wanted to point out there was no insult in either the part you quoted nor the rest of his post.
It was purely assumption on your part.
I personally think this is somewhat telling, but I won't say further on the matter.
>he is running
How is that bad? Being well rounded in overall fitness is a good thing.
Its associated with being a wimp, a prey, a natural beta male, running away from a fight is cowardly, why train to run away if you can chase something instead unless you do loaded carries in which case with explosive work you don't need to be running more than 2.5mi.
Cool video idea but pretty weird considering that he literally owns a commercial gym
>He is going to Planet Fitness exclusively now
why would he ever do this when his entire reason for having a youtube career was to advertise and run his own gym?
for clickbait views
Alan is to the core the manliest person I have ever seen on the internet
I REALLY am an expert on this
I never sent him any weird DMs because I respect him so much
Anyone who says it’s ok to use a smith machine should be shunned from any serious fitness discussion
He has always been a trend hopping gay
He started by just parroting SS and tried to start teaching it despite never being particularly strong himself
Now he is just parroting the next thing
The man is a hack
Guy is running out of ideas and isn't necessarily impressive with what he does. I bet it's even harder now that every bodybuilder/strongman/powerlifter makes clickbait influencer content now.
What does Alan Thrall offer that someone else doesn't do better, in a more entertaining way?
He's going for a hail mary, I guess
good tutorial videos
I could tell immediately from looking at his face that he was a vegan. Seriously why do vegans always look pale and tired?
he ate vegan for one day/video
>his upper body makes me sad considering how long he's been lifting
yeah that's what happens when you fall for the SS/rippletits meme. he spent years following rippletits advice and only recently realized how retarded it is for people that wanna look good and build muscle.
He isn't vegan, way to prove that you can't actually tell.
Thats a lot of words for not actually saying anything or providing any evidence
Who cares if it is real or normal, it serves it's purpose without abusing an animal. But yeah blending plants to a milky substance and adding vitamins to it isn't "normal" but raping a cow, stealing it's baby and breastfeeding off of it is.
Who's raping cows? Are they in the room with us right now?
>breastfeeding off it
this is objectively incorrect, vegans have tried to stretch wording so far they've started outright lying, although i guess that starting with "rotting flesh". no one is breastfeeding off cows, breastfeeding involves a baby sucking on the nipple of it's mother, so unless you have something to confess, no one is doing that
Artificial insemination is standard even on "small family farms". If being forcibly fisted isn't a form of rape then I don't know what is.
>this is objectively incorrect, vegans have tried to stretch wording so far they've started outright lying, although i guess that starting with "rotting flesh". no one is breastfeeding off cows, breastfeeding involves a baby sucking on the nipple of it's mother, so unless you have something to confess, no one is doing that
Oh I'm so sorry, I was not aware you graduated to bottle feeding. You're a big boy now.
>No, "bulk supplements." "Bulk supplements" makes all of your micros meaningless, because "bulk supplements" don't have the same nutrition as food. I don't know how you missed that and thought I was referring to "protein powder." The image is pretty big.
Not sure if it is cut off for you, but thats just a brand of protein powder. It says it right there "Bulk supplements, onions protein isolate"
Those studies are all great and all. But if I'm deficient in vitamin D and take a vitamin D supplement. I'm no long deficient in vitamin D. If I take a b12 supplement, I'm no longer deficient in B12. Thats the purpose of them.
>thats just a brand of protein powder.
My bad, I thought it was two separate things.
>Thats the purpose of them.
First of all, you have to consume much more vitamin D or B12 via supplements for them to be absorbed than you would in real food because they are less bioavailable. Secondly, it seems to be more complex than just "deficient -> take vitamin -> lab shows I'm fine -> I'm fine" as the studies above show, because, despite taking supplements and seemingly being "not deficient," the preventative benefits of those vitamins seem to not be there.
Food and nutrition is much more complicated than a handful of molecules we've isolated. Common sense will tell you that, but science can show you that, too. Supplements don't and can't replace food.
And are these cows negatively affected?
also the alternative is getting bulled
What is a cow to a man? Our health and wellbeing comes first.
Alan Thrall is ok, his upper body makes me sad considering how long he's been lifting tbh. I think he just doesn't give a fuck.
He's a bit of a dummy when it comes to training. He made a video where he argues against the idea of having deload weeks and says you should train every day without any rest days.
He ate vegan for one day for a video