>you only need 30kcal surplus, MORE THAN THAT AND YOU'RE BULKING
>wow, you didn't put on size in 3 years of maingaining? you did something wrong, it's your fault, not Coach Gregs
>MAINGAINING IS BETTER THAN BULKING, it doesn't matter that you won't grow, I don't give a shit, buy my book at CoachGreg.com
>*high pitched whining and screaming like a BPD woman on a period*
>if you don't have abs, your fat, it doesn't matter that you're 130lbs, you have to cut
>buy my cookbook with thousands of grammatical errors, all recipes contain sweeteners, because I'm a frickup and don't practice what I preach
>BULKING MEANS EATING WENDYS AND PIZZA EVERY DAY, STAP IT
>I-I DIDN'T GASLIGHT YOU, YOU GASLIGHTED YOURSELF
>I-I WASN'T WRONG, I-I W-WAS RIGHT, YOU JUST DON' UNDERSTAN
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U good bro?
Can't stand his voice and way of speaking(shouting). I stopped watching him after maybe 2 videos lol
Agreed, I think he pulls off a persona for his own videos. He comes off as more sensible person when he is a guest on other people's channels
Yeah, he's insufferable and annoying like that from in the 2000's
I saw ~3 of his videos and I think he broke character at some point and all but I've no idea why he'd choose THAT character in the first place
Why do homosexuals need some influencer dick 24/7?
Can't you just lift?
Because a majority of people need someone to follow or look up to and since the parents these days aren’t doing shit themselves the snot nosed homosexuals are turning to these morons for advice
gaslighting israelite
can't believe people fall for his stupid shit
Are you saying CICO is wrong?
For a bodybuilder? Yes it is.
Post body
homie who ITT said that?
He implied it in his greentext saying he didn't put on size in 3 years of being in a caloric surplus, and further saying that you won't grow.
You won't grow without caloric surplus. Just as you won't get anywhere without fuel.
When you train hard you use up more fuel. So you need to replenish it.
>Literal bot response.
What is fat if not fuel, and don't give me the "HURR fat can't build muscle, you need actual calories from food", because you don't, it's not like you use 100% of the glucose produced by food for sustaining life and only fat to build muscle, it's a mix of both.
A 30kcal surplus is on the same level as a minor calculation error. Minimum 200kcal for a bulk to know you're getting in enough
You cannot intentionally maintain a 30kcal surplus is the OP point you seem to be missing. You can't even accurately calculate it, and even if you could measure your caloric intake to that level of precision, you could accidentally burn it off with a vigorous fap or by fidgeting.
>a minor calculation error
>You can't even accurately calculate it
The thing that CICOtards keep denying is now something they acknowledge.
The principles of cico are valid regardless of whether or not you even calculate calories at all.
>Principles of "calories in calories out"
kek. What principles? Also
>Implying 30kcal surplus will give you gains.
>kek. What principles?
How moronic are you? The principle is if you want to gain weight you need to eat more and if you want to lose weight you need to eat less. Whether or not you even calculate your calorie expenditure and intake has no bearing on that.
>The principle is if you want to gain weight you need to eat more and if you want to lose weight you need to eat less
That's less of a principle and more of a tautology. Nobody reasonable is ever arguing against that. The argument is that it's not useful in any way.
>That's less of a principle and more of a tautology.
It's the basic underlying principle of cico
>Nobody reasonable is ever arguing against that.
Every anti-cico gay here argues against it.
>The argument is that it's not useful in any way.
It clearly is since there's deluded fatties that make moronic claims like
>I can't lose weight even though I'm in a deficit!
>It's the basic underlying principle of cico
There's nothing else to CICO. That's literally all it says.
>Every anti-cico gay here argues against it.
Nobody is "anti-CICO". They're just saying it's useless and unhelpful.
>But muh fatties...
I specified "reasonable". I only care about what actual people say.
>There's nothing else to CICO. That's literally all it says.
So now you agree with me?
>Nobody is "anti-CICO".
Honestly, how fricking new are you to believe this?
>They're just saying it's useless and unhelpful.
It's not though, it's an essential part of reality you have to accept being going any further.
>I specified "reasonable". I only care about what actual people say.
Every anti-cico gay is a coping fatty. You're just an odd confused contrarian who seems to be trying to shit on cico whilst simultaneously agreeing with it 100%
There's nothing to disagree with besides the claim that it's useful.
If you can't measure the calories in nor the calories out, then just spamming "CICO CICO CICO" is a display of pure moronation.
Moreover, you gays deliberately try to derail and ignore genuine advice for altering metabolic rate and appetite, which would actually help people to lose weight.
>There's nothing to disagree with
Correct. There's many anons here that dispute this though.
>besides the claim that it's useful.
Being aware of the basic premise that you need to lower or increase your caloric intake depending on your goal isn't just useful, it's an essential reality you need to accept. The reason you don't think it's useful is because you've already internalised it as such.
I've gained weight while eating less, I've lost weight while eating more. My appetite has pretty much halved since I was a teenager, and I only gained weight since then.
The one time I tried cutting, I ate about 500ckal less than usual and didn't lose any weight.
I can basically fluctuate the amount I eat by +-500kcal and not gain or lose any weight.
The amount and type of training you do and the type of food you eat has a far greater impact.
>inb4 fatty
I have never been above 15% bodyfat.
Can you elaborate on type of training?
I've posted bits and pieces about this sort of thing and have been thinking about writing it all down in one post. I'll try to just summarize the main points here. It largely boils down to the various forms of cardio and how your body recovers.
Cardio ranges from very high intensity (5+ rep sets to failure) all the way down to very low intensity cardio (slow jogging or brisk walking). While cardio on the lower end can make it easy to get a high volume and you'll burn a lot calories from the sheer volume of movement, unless it is something brand new to you, your body will not need to put forward many of its resources toward recovery compared to higher intensity cardio. Moreover, your body is constantly trying to adapt to be as efficient as possible, so an increase in low intensity cardio will cause it to slow its metabolism.
Upping the intensity to say the low-mid range of cardio, this will be where it is possible, but difficult (especially without training) to hold for extended periods of time without any rest. At this point, your body will start to need more resources to recover, though this will be recovering from fatigue more than muscle recovery. At this low-mid intensity, you can still get in a good amount of volume, and will burn calories quicker, and additionally burn some calories during your recovery, but it will "steal" from your muscular recovery which builds muscle. This is why a lot of people on cuts will lose more muscle than they need to; they fatigue themselves doing low-mid intensity cardio and moreover don't eat enough to replenish their muscles.
At the higher end of the spectrum, is stuff like sprinting, or doing heavy compounds for 5+ reps. This stuff is ideal for building muscle, but it does also work the cardiovascular system. In fact, this very high intensity cardio is vital for improving the cardiovascular system if you combine it with other cardio forms.
The stress put on your body is the greatest for this high intensity cardio, but the volume is necessarily relatively low (even if you do something like GVT, the volume is simply nowhere near what you can do for mid intensity cardio). Hence, your body will spend a lot of its resources on recovery of the muscles and whatever other systems, which uses up a lot of energy, while not receiving the same fatigue stimulus it would from the lower-mid intensity cardio. Hence, it does not try to compensate by slowing down the metabolism.
I'll note that doing stuff like 1-3RM sets will cause muscle damage and your body will need to spend energy resources on that, the lack of volume and fact that it does not receive practically any cardiovascular stimulus means it won't burn as many calories.
I will return to the low intensity cardio now that I've addressed what happens in high intensity. One of the absolute keys in recovery is bloodflow; if you have more blood flowing to your muscles, you will recover quicker and better. This is the utility of (very) low intensity cardio; it causes significant increase to blood flow compared to being sedentary, while not causing the damage or (as much) fatigue of higher intensity cardio. In other words, while you are doing a brisk walk or slow jog (or if you are more ahtletic, quicker jogs), your body will be recovering. Again, 1-3RM stuff and especially stuff like Bulgarian systems of training will be exceptional in this regard, where any movement at all will impede recovery, but as a general rule, this type of "active recovery" idea holds.
So different types of training refer to the different areas of cardio as well as strength training, and the various amounts of volume put into each one.
>you only need 30kcal surplus
E-celebs saying shit like this and then we wonder why there is a rise in eating disorders
what there is a rise of is binge eating obese women getting diagnosed with anorexia because muh feelings
has nothing to do with male targeted youtubers
There is a rise in orthorexia which I think is a type of anorexia. It's when people obsessively eat "healthy".
If everyone had "orthorexia" the world would be a much better place and I say this as a binge drinker who eats a lot of sugar. The average man in the west is overweight and you're afraid of some internet geeks who care TOO MUCH about their health?
>t. I measure ever grain of rice
I just told you I'm an alcoholic that eats candy every day. I'm not an "orthorexic". But if I was I'd be better off.
>I drink a beer every evening and have a sweet tooth that means I'm an alcoholic with a candy problem, not an orthorexic
It's funny that you don't notice it.
I'm 7 beers in
im a drinker too but think of all the lost gains alcohol steals from you
>If everyone had "orthorexia" the world would be a much better place
t. orthorexic
it was mentzer who said it lmao, 40+ years ago
its half the amount coach gaycette says to get 10 pounds of muscle a year
gaygory x2'd the digits so that it would look like he came up with the idea of maingain/mainbulk himself
>forgot to season my chicken
>bulk ruined
>help family move a chair
>bulk ruined
I am convinced that after your 1st year of lifting, it is physically impossible as a natty to gain any kind of muscle or strength without constant decent caloric surplus. Anytime my bodyweight remains the same for 2-3 months, I practically look and feel the same and I'll be lifting the same weight week by week. Start stuffing my mouth more and the next week itself all my lifts start going up.
post body fatass
Grow some inches, you roided up impotent manlet.
>BULKING MEANS EATING WENDYS AND PIZZA EVERY DAY, STAP IT
the problem is that this is exactly what the average moron thinks bulking is
how many guys actually just eat +250kcal above maintenance with whole foods when they're "bulking"?
>the problem is that this is exactly what the average moron thinks bulking is
But that's exactly what Greg craves. This little homosexual can't stop talking about fast foods. I bet he stuffs his little homosexual mouth with McDonald every night.
i doubt it considering he's shredded year round
>i doubt it considering he's shredded year round
Steroids.
Most steroid users aren't shredded year round though
It's what bulking meant until autists hijacked the scene in the 2010s.
And now people complain they can't eat enough food for bulking because their idea is eating 4lbs of plain chicken breast and two handfuls of rice every day.
>it's what bulking meant before posting images of yourself online became normalized and fatass morons would just blatantly estat about their appearances and lifts on forums and get away with it
Yeah and it was wrong
>if you don't have abs, your fat, it doesn't matter that you're 130lbs, you have to cut
yeah he's right
if you lift weights to look better and are fat 90% of the year, you're doing it wrong
homie always looks like he was crying for hours before shooting the video.
Here's my problem with Greg's advice:
He fundamentally understands bodybuilding principles and the correct foods to eat for health and performance, but he chooses instead to shill his meme cookbook goyslop and protein bars, because he knows he gets more views pandering to lazy zoomers who can't go a few hours without shoving some absolute processed crap into their mouths.
>train hard
>do cardio
>don't eat like a fatfrick
This revolutionary new advice confuses and distresses the powerlifter
>Liver enjoyer
Every time I eat medium rare liver I get an energy boost similar to full on mania
should I try raw liver?
Liver is superior to every A-Z pill, that's true. If you can get your hands on good quality liver and you're not disgusted/afraid you might try eating it raw.
I prefer to cook it with onions and apples though.
Nobody wants to hear you talk namegay
I didn't ask about your Black person opinion, you lower form of life. Chances are that you're a shitskin.
>listening to a manlet roid troony who is israeli and that thinks glyphosate is a healthy and has a high pitched voice
Greg is literally the strongest deadlifter on the planet who the frick are you ytboi?
I can't stand this fricker's face in the catalog
>>you only need 30kcal surplus, MORE THAN THAT AND YOU'RE BULKING
Sounds like something Mike Mentzer said.