Can anyone collagenpill me?
What's the magic of this shit?
Just took my first two scoops
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Can anyone collagenpill me?
What's the magic of this shit?
Just took my first two scoops
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What is the point of this? Collagen doesn’t have anything to do with keto. Collagen is literally made out of protein*.
*this product is an incomplete source of protein.
It’s way more expensive than whey, not worth it imo just eat oranges and bone broths
Isn’t bone broth more expensive than collagen?
you can buy bone with marrow for almost nothing and cook up a batch thatl last you for months
What about jello?
What about it
Buy bulk gelatin powder in specialized baker stores.
Regular store bought goes for €50/Kg, specialist goes for €20-30/kg. Whey goes for €35/kg
Though whey is usually 95%+ protein while gelatin 80%. So they're comparable in price.
its a scam for brainlets
Just get whey
isn't whey incredibly processed and hard on your kidneys and liver?
Whey is just a kind of protein found in milk. It’s probably cheaper to buy milk than buy whey anyway, and you can just get protein from food, so whey protein doesn’t really do anything except make it more convenient to eat protein.
>cheaper to buy milk than buy whey
IN WHAT FRICKING WORLD????????????????????????????????
it's pretty toxic. any kind of powdered slop is toxic due to the processing of it. just eat food. idk why people dance around the fricking simplest issues so much. protein issue? eat more meat, scared of calories? eat eggs or organs
>just eat 6 chicken breasts a day bro
if you can then why not? ill stick to beef tho
I used to think like this but when I finally started using whey my lifts exploded. Same with creatine. So I'm optimistic for collagen too.
lol literally placebo and your lifts were shit. there is really no reason why your lifts should go up more than by like 1kg if you start taking creatine. but if you needed that placebo to progress then i guess good for you
>lol literally placebo and your lifts were shit
I compete and it made an appreciable difference.
This is a better approach. Gelatin is dirt cheap and you can get it at any supermarket in paper envelopes without any PFAS liner. You just mix it into enough hot liquid otherwise it'll get lumpy and you'll never dissolve it. Because it's a food, I trust it to be a little purer than sketchy supplements.
why would whey be toxic just because its in powder form? there isnt even any chemicals used to filter or dry it
it´s the "waste" product of cheese you jsut seperate from fat and sugar with a ceramic filter and heat dry it
and you are basically left with ony the milk protein dried
unless you say past milk and cheese is toxic you have no leg to stand on
There's a possibility that oxidation damages stuff during drying but i doubt it's significant for whey
>oxidation
you read that about sneed oils and now its on your brain
Processed means it's easier to digest. It's the same with sugar.
Granulated sugar is a hundred times easier to digest than the sugar you find in fruits.
>get milk
>rip the protein out of it
>sell it as powder
>uhmmmmmmmm isnt whey LE BAD
Whey is industrial cheese runoff
>get cheese
>rip the milk protein out of it
>sell it as powder
>uhmmmmmmmm isnt whey LE BAD
supplements are a scam
New research has shown that it has muscle and tendon growth effects... i think it was 30% more muscled growth and like doubling of tendon size compared to control.
The mechanism behind it is still currently unknown.
The idea that it cant be broken down like that because its a long chain is negated because its hydrolyzed.
This as a powder is indeed different than getting it through chicken skin
The stomach hydrolysed proteins anyway through acid and pepsin enzymes, hydrolyzed is solely so it doesn't form a jello in your cup
I just started doing 15g gelatin in 16oz OJ every lower body day to strengthen my patellar tendons specifically.
https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/ijsnem/29/4/article-p453.xml#d1270362e293
This is a better approach. Gelatin is dirt cheap and you can get it at any supermarket in paper envelopes without any PFAS liner. You just mix it into enough hot liquid otherwise it'll get lumpy and you'll never dissolve it. Because it's a food, I trust it to be a little purer than sketchy supplements.
It's slowly turning you into glue.
I mix it in with my ground beef for extra collagen
My literally-boomer mother puts it on her food and when she slacks off she gets old-lady spots from, like, burst blood vessels or something
Keeps your joints/connective tissue from getting fricked up
We had a great post before some days here about it.
Maybe someone can find it
It's a protein source that is high in glycine, has every other amino acids, except tryptophan
And this is a good thing, high tryptophan from whey on the long run does more harm than good to your health, and is known to make you hit the wall earlier, you can get more than enough tryptophan for muscle synthesis just from a decent diet
Whereas the high glycine from collagen is harmless and you will notice how good it is for your joints, hair and skin health, improves sleep too
Price is debatable, where I live a quality whey and quality collagen peptides are almost the same price, with the latter being slightly cheaper, even better because the whey has 0.8g protein per 1g, whereas collagen has 0.9g protein per 1g
You can go for more DIY natural options like bone broth, but if you country has a reputable lab I would still go for peptides, it is the best bang for buck because of higher bioavailability
It is a hard to swallow redpill, since whey is so deep rooted in fitness industry, and most people just 'follow the current thing' instead of doing researches on their own, so don't listen to whey salesmen and shills ITT, it doesn't take much to realize whey is a meme, just leave it to roidtrannies to keep buying it, the guys who are professional at destroying their own health
Thats alot of words.
Post body so I can see what kind of physique is making these claims.
>Thats alot of words.
quintessential amerifat post
Wow, thats really neat
I just eat all the sinevs and gristle on my meat/fish/chicken instead, you should try it sometimes.
I still feel like all these collagen threads are a constructed marketing campaign to try and eat whey's position in the market.
They always read like an advertisement and it's always the same messaging. If a real person actually preferred collagen to whey, they would probably post once about it and not dedicate their lives to trying to convert others.
ikr
feel the same about people trying to discredit collagen
sounds like they're afraid of losing their whey sales if collagen ever goes mainstream
Exactly. The ROI for posting on IST is probably unknown but it's free to post and you can do it on the side of the rest of your actual job (like me right now).
Actually, there's probably a lot of topics that are just fringe marketing campaigns.
For collagen:
Go to your local Asian store or even Walmart and buy chicken feet.
Pressure cook the feet for 2-3 hours
Strain
You're left with incredibly gelatinous broth. Use this to make rice/beans/soup/whatever.