Could you take 1997 Mike in a fight? he's 5'10 218lbs

Could you take 1997 Mike in a fight? he's 5'10 218lbs

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rocky Marciano was better

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The guy fought mostly bums and in a much easier era with less than a quarter the skill Tyson has.
      You whybois always be bringing up Marciano.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You whybois always be bringing up Marciano.
        That's a thing? I heard of this Marciano guy last week and wanted to race bait

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >1:22

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tyson could not hack it today, moronboy. Boxing turned international and few morons have what it takes. Besides, Tyson would lose against a decent wrestler. There is literally nothing he could do about it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is true but can you imagine how good of a wrestler he would have made?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Would he though? I don't see why.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You mma junkies are so fucking retarded, like bruh you act as if ANY mediocre grappler or kickboxer can all of a sudden beat Prime Mike Tyson who was arguably the greatest heavyweights all of time. Like bruh ask me how I know you haven't competed competitively in ANY MARTIAL ART much less having ever trained one for at least a year like bro shut up

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ANY mediocre grappler
            Has a very good chance of beating him.

            >kickboxer
            No, not really.

            >who was arguably the greatest heavyweights all of time.
            Delusional.

            But not any grappler can beat Mike Tyson fucking dumbass

            If Mike Tyson doesn't know any grappling he will most likely lose against a decent grappler. I dare you to take on a wrestler without any previous training and see how it goes.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's the thing tho I'm not a professional heavyweight who has over 50 wins and trained by Cus, I'm still an amateur boxer.

              Maybe if we're pitting amateurs against amateurs ye the wresting dudes would win like 8/10 times but Mike Tyson was a HALL OF FAME boxer, along with Ali he is the FACE of boxing for the average person who isn't deep into the sport. And honestly any wrestler who's dumb enough to go for a leg takedown from the get go will eat a mean uppercut, it's not easy as you make it out to be. Maybe if you mentioned another boxer who wasn't a powerhouse and didn't exude so much pressure on his opponents then I'd probably side with you no debate. No just any wrestler is beating Tyson, decent doesn't cut it you'd have to be a professional minimum

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Great strikers get destroyed by grapplers all the time for being stupid. Rhonda Rousey is one of the better examples, she cleaned house on better fighters because she focused on taking them down and submitting them. When she went against Holly Holm, a professional boxer with 40+ professional boxing matches, someone in her corner told her her stand-up was good enough, and she tried to play the striking game with Holm, she got knocked the fuck out. If Rousey had just stuck with her old formula, takedown, armbar, she most likely would’ve won.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only boomers bring up Marciano. These two would wipe the floor with Mike Tyson in 97'

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >le slow jab bros
          they would get destroyed in a real fight

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope. Manlet Tyson wouldn't even get close to Fury

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Damn that nig got destroyed

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lennox Lewis fucked him up easily using that method

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doubt.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lennox beats both

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Klitschko, a 4–1 underdog, dominated the early going with many harder punches. He stunned Lewis in the second round with two hard rights, leaving a cut under Lewis's left eye.[39] In the third, Lewis landed a big right hand that opened a deep cut above Klitschko's left eye.[39] Before the seventh round, the ringside doctor inspected the wound and deemed it severe enough to threaten eye damage if struck again, stopping the fight despite Klitschko's pleas to continue. Klitschko was ahead on all three judges' scorecards 58–56 (4 rounds to 2) at the time of the stoppage, but because the wound was a result of punches from Lewis, Lewis won by technical knockout.
            Vitaly was better. Lennox got a lucky cut.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lennox was on his way out and barely trained for that fight.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like bullshit to me.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          lennox lewis would hit that pikey BUM so hard, Hughie, Dewie, Louis and Tommy would feel it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tyson Fury is better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Marciano had a great career and was a great champion. Tyson was ultimately a fuck up an a waste of talent. If anything it was tyson who fought bums- even though it isn't entirely his fault he was fighting bums- he fought who was there to fight.

        Having said that someone like Marciano never fought someone like Tyson obviously. In his prime he was a great boxer, but never a great champion.

        Tyson was too fucked up to ever be a great champion. He couldn't go five seconds with self destructing without Cus' crew breathing breathing down his neck. Tyson had immense talent and skill, but just didn't remotely have the makings of a great like Marciano. Tyson wishes he was a champion like Marciano or Louis.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't shit!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bruh... tyson would literally kill him lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the fuck up, fag. There was no Ali, Tyson, Holmes, or Foreman in Rocky's era. He'd be dead if there was.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Redundant info if he was 4'11 130 he'd still rape 99.9% of people on here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The 0.1% would be too ugly to ever be raped

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if by take you mean take a punch and get knocked out instantly, yes

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no you retard it's fucking Mike Tyson

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if my boxing class in uni doesn't make us spar should I ditch them and find a gym?
    I feel like I won't learn to dodge effectively anytime soon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      definitely, what's the point of boxing without sparring(without head gear if possible )
      You have to get used to pain from punches.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have to spar, once a week minimum

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, he's a boxlet

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No? No one here could unless there HAPPENS to be some elite level fighter that is possibly also a higher weight class and not fighting under boxing rules.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Boxers lose against grapplers everytime.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I agree but it'd still take a very high level grappler to take on the top boxer in his prime.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really don't think so. The difference between an avearge grappler and a complete novice is massive. The novice is like a fish out of water and has literally no chance.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If Mike knows he's fighting in MMA rules, I think he'd work on his grappling with the same intensity as his boxing. He could be pretty scary on the ground in a pretty short amount of time. Or just grab a dozen D1 wrestlers and pay them to shoot on him over and over again until he can defend the takedown.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Now you are talking aout Tyson in MMA. You are literally making up a story in your head about how good he would be. Why? Are you retarded?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                "What would Mike as an MMA fighter be like?" is a more interesting question than this retarded thread.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why? Because you, the fanboy, thinks so? Keep your fantasies to yourself.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because, if anyone in this thread actually does combat sports, they're hobbyist BJJ blue belts, 5'10" 175#. They're at a massive size disadvantage, have never been hit hard, and have mediocre takedown skills.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing but the truth here, I'd go as far as to say anyone on this board who does wrestling ain't even a high level amateur and probably gets tapped out everyday in his gym

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even if the grappler usually beats the striker, Mike was a phenom with notoriously heavy hands, great infighting, and fast, aggressive footwork. Mike would be in your face, leaving you with little opportunity to set up your shot.

                There's no shame in getting heemed by him, especially since he's probably stronger, faster, and has better cardio than (You).

                This literally goes back to my FIRST post
                [...]
                You have a boxer against an elite level fighter. Show me James Toney fighting even the average IST guy.

                James Toney is more of a shoulder roll and counterpunch guy. I think it would be easier to set up a shot on him. Tyson's aggression from the bell would make more difficult to deal with.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There you go, making stuff up again because it suits you. Retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Statistically this is probably true but I made a point to never pull guard or start seated at white belt.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you didn’t know, Forrest Griffin lurks on this site. We went to the same gym together in and had some interesting conversations.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                is this Forrest Griffin in the room with us right now?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes but we aren't talking about just grappling. We're talking about fighting.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Boxers do not do well in MMA for a reason.

              Fucking idiots on this board.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Randy is a very good wrestler. Very few people can consistently place in international tournaments for a decade. Your average amateur fighter is nowhere near that accomplished, skilled, or disciplined.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This literally goes back to my FIRST post
                [...]
                You have a boxer against an elite level fighter. Show me James Toney fighting even the average IST guy.

                Boxers and strikers didn't do well against mediocre grapplers in early UFC either. Your stupidity is tiresome.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not arguing that boxing is better than grappling you dumb illiterate mother fucker. But you do have to be a really good grappler to beat a .01 percentile boxer in a fight.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not true if that .01 precentile boxer doesn't know any grappling.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is this JUST a jiu jitsu match or something?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This literally goes back to my FIRST post

                No? No one here could unless there HAPPENS to be some elite level fighter that is possibly also a higher weight class and not fighting under boxing rules.

                You have a boxer against an elite level fighter. Show me James Toney fighting even the average IST guy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But not any grappler can beat Mike Tyson fucking dumbass

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    '97 Mike is relatively worn out and drug addled, but still obviously not.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably not. My best option would be to shoot for a low single and then go for a kneebar, but I'd still probably get heemed on the way in.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Singles are for pussies. Pressure in during a clench and then drop down for the double.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pressure in during a clinch
        >with Mike Tyson
        That's just asking to ripped with some of the meanest hooks and uppercuts the sport has seen.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah bro I started lifting last week fr fr I can beat micheal jordan easily no cap

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, I don't care for the grapplers on this board who think they are better than strikers NOBODY who frequents this board is BEATING PRIME MIKE TYSON. You guys are just fucking retarded and high off your own kool-aid

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The master of peekaboo boxing? Never. Not even now. He's nearing 60 and his training videos are insane. 1/1,000,000 fighter. Quality moron.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mma
    he'd probably break your fucking arm or leg if you tried to grab him

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    97 Tyson was a bum. It’s 86-88 Tyson you want, and even then he was proven to be a front runner who folds in adversity

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I could kill him on one punch.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not a single person on this entire website could take prime mike. 0. People underestimate how good professional fighters are and iron mike was a specimen even among them. He was a ridiculous combination of mass and speed. 99.9999% of people could not move around at such speed with his mass, let alone do so for an entire boxing match without being gassed. Fighting against him if you are anything but a pro fighter or like 6‘6 with perfect one shot knockout power is literally just survival mode

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would beat him with my superior speed

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's funny that when the same question was asked for whether IST could beat a lion or bear more people said they could

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1997 Tyson I would have a good chance. He was very slow by then. I could use kicks to whittle him down. His cardio would be the problem. He couldn't finish me with a single punch as long as I see it coming. If you put a 1991 or earlier Mike Tyson in front of me I would say no way.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I could use kicks to whittle him down
      maybe you could use tickles

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 6'2, so easily.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      tyrel biggs was 6'5

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but he was DYEL

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Take in boxing or take in a fight?
    In boxing, he’d most likely knock me the fuck out within three rounds. In an anything goes fight, I might be able to kick enough to set him up for a shoot, double-leg takedown, and a rear-naked choke before he could knock me out. But also, I wouldn’t want to catch one of his jabs.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    childhood is thinking Ali is overrated, adulthood is coming around and realising that he really was that good mayweather is a bum and a world class duck

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ali is a legitimate great. So is Marciano. Tyson was just a really good fuck up trained by a great coach.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tyson in his prime beats Ali in his prime. Would go down worse than Ali vs Frazier I.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > Tyson in his prime beats Ali in his prime
          Where? In your fucking dreams? Stop sleeping on Ali, clown. He beat Frazier AND Foreman, he'd adjust to Tyson in no time. Prime Ali goes the distance and beats prime Tyson after Tyson gasses out.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Prime Tyson gasses out
            I love when you people say this, shows what fucking ignoramuses you are, prime Tyson doesn't gas out, never did, never would

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Idk prime Tyson is basically like a version of Frazier that is stronger, faster, and a better boxer imho. And Frazier beat Ali. Frazier could also take a punch though and that would be the real test for Mike Tyson.

            People forget that in his prime, Tyson was a good boxer not just a puncher. D'Amato and crew basically taught him everything and kept him sharp. There is a great old clip where D'Amato is play-sparring with Ali during the period where Ali was on hiatus, and when Cus starts boxing like Frazier, it looked remarkably like Tyson's later style. I can just tell even back then he was formulating that style.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    most people here couldn't take on Mike today. He's still a bad motherfucker that will sink your nose in.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >
    > 5'10
    Lol. His tiny arms couldn’t even come close to my face.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't, but Deontay/Fury/Joshua/Usyk would easily ko him. He only faced bums in his prime, and even got ko by one of them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Joshua five years ago maybe. Current Joshua doesn’t belong with the rest of those names.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        just watch him beat Usyk/Fury/Deontay in his next 3 fights

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    I'm a wrestler
    But I wouldn't because the resulted injuries wouldn't be worth it, so I would rather run.
    That's why you shouldn't fight animals and why I'll never fight a chimp.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mike Tyson was a freak of nature.
    the combination of his strongman genes, abusive upbringing and D'Amato tapping into his autistic childhood poverty rage brought out his talent.

    it's a shame he needed a father figure to get into his head and tell him he could win. otherwise he was literally just a loose cannon that could've ended up dead or in jail

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nobody on this Nigerian heroin cooking forum can take Mike Tyson in a fight retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to believe that is a real product, so I'm not going to look it up.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What a manlet, LOL. I’m 6’0, I could kick his ass.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No?

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