Deadlifts have to be the most overrated exercise in existence for hypertrophy (unless we're talking about RDLs).

Deadlifts have to be the most overrated exercise in existence for hypertrophy (unless we're talking about RDLs).

I swear 90% of the people who go on about them are DYELs with one rep maxes of 4 plate and just do them to feel superior to other gym users.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah pretty much

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Shit 2-year lifters say when they're still gaining muscle from shit like 'hamstring curls'
    Lol. Just wait till you plateau after 5 years of lifting and we'll talk. Every single big natty lives and dies by deadlifts

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    post body (you wont)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I would post my body, then you'd call me a DYEL.

      I'd then point out I deadlift over 200kg which proves my point that deadlifts are shit for hypertrophy.

      I'm pissed off I got memed into becoming a pseudo powerlifter by the SS mongs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what kind of hypertrophy were you expecting from deadlifts?

        they're a glute exercise, they give you a big ass, that's about it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Idiot retard moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            if you thought they were going to make your back bigger you're doing them wrong.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Stop existing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooo the rest of my body didn't get huge from doing an ass exercise

                who would've thought.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If all you do is powerlift yes you will not get that big
        It's all about combining bodybuilding with deadlifting
        First do lots of pump works like hyperextensions, pull ups, rows, curls etc. and then go into deadlifting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and yet you never posted body at all

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >over 200kg
        That's weak. That's like 180 kg x 5, literal 4-6 months on SS tier.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        post 200kg dl body lardass

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >dislikes deadlifts
    >instead of just not doing it goes on a spam crusade trying to justify not doing them
    ngmi

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >deadlifts are bad
    Alright fair enough, where’s your alternative?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      for me it's the trap bar deadlift.

      conventional deadlift puts far too much pressure on my lower spine, no matter how much i deload or practice form. i blame my long femurs, short torso and long arms.

      >over 200kg
      That's weak. That's like 180 kg x 5, literal 4-6 months on SS tier.

      i did SS for 5 years and never breached 140kg

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >i did SS for 5 years and never breached 140kg
        Are you 4'6 or something?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >i did SS for 5 years and never breached 140kg
        Maybe that's because you did a novice program that's MAXIMALLY supposed to be run for 8 months for about 10 times longer than it should be run and are clearly a fucking retard who has no goddamn clue what he's doing and never will. Confirmed dyel for life, give up. You should've probably read a single page of Practical Programming.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >conventional deadlift puts far too much pressure on my lower spine, no matter how much i deload or practice form. i blame my long femurs, short torso and long arms.
        More evidence you have no idea what you're doing and haven't read a single page of SS. Literally quit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >i did SS for 5 years and never breached 140kg
          Maybe that's because you did a novice program that's MAXIMALLY supposed to be run for 8 months for about 10 times longer than it should be run and are clearly a fucking retard who has no goddamn clue what he's doing and never will. Confirmed dyel for life, give up. You should've probably read a single page of Practical Programming.

          >i did SS for 5 years and never breached 140kg
          Are you 4'6 or something?

          it's not that deep bro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        trap bar deadlifts are fair I like them too for higher rep sets.

        Even Zach evett or whatever he was called didn't hit 4 plate

        strength is largely genetic most people aren't good deadlifters but it's still one of the best lower body exercises, and has a lower risk of injury than squats.

        post 200kg dl body lardass

        you don't need to be that big or heavy to deadlift 4.5 plate, literal skeletons can pull 6+ if they have the right leverages and strength genetics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > literal skeletons can pull 6+
          Post one example

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not him and not 6 but this guy has a very unimpressive physique and legs in particular for how good his deadlift is

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yo joe Biden gettin a lil swole in this one frfr ong

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            here's a skinny junior asian kid with glasses deadlifting 247 as an opener as if it's a joke.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >sumo
              >genetic outlier top 10 worldwide
              You really think this was a good example?
              People look big from the front if they have big arms, big chest, big shoulders, and big quads. The deadlift trains none of these things well.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so argumentative?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's recreation, I enjoy it.

                deadlifts have one of the lowest risks of injury most athletes such as swimmers, runners and climbers do them.
                [...]
                >one example

                feel free to check any weight class below 80kg almost all deadlift specialists are just skinny dudes you absolute autist.

                It's almost like a weight class sport that has two two lower body movements that are also much heavier than the upper body movement favors people who specialize in those two and don't develop their upper body. Amazing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not him

              >sumo
              >genetic outlier top 10 worldwide
              You really think this was a good example?
              People look big from the front if they have big arms, big chest, big shoulders, and big quads. The deadlift trains none of these things well.

              , the original guy who said post example.
              I tried to look for pics of his back and glutes but there was none since those are the muscles primarily taxed in the deadlift

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > conventional deadlift puts far too much pressure on my lower spine, no matter how much i deload or practice form. i blame my long femurs, short torso and long arms.
        Lol, you clearly don’t know how to deadlift because you literally have the more ideal anthropometry for deadlifts. 200kg beltless should have been a sneeze for you to achieve

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah well...whatever dude. i think i got weak glutes. i hurt my lower back twice from pulling because i didn't realise i need to push into the ground and use glutes. i thought deadlift was a pull exercise.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so it actually wasnt the lift causing the problem it was the fact you were doing a lift without knowing the proper form

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              i think you're right sir. i am sorry for slandering such a perfect exercise. i'm going to the gym today but it's push day. i think i will still try some deadlifts though. perhaps i am going to make it after all. godspeed you magnificent basterd.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its okay anon ygmi. Id recommend you try doing some below the knee rackpulls after squatting on leg day as well to get your lower back stronger.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Braaap bar deadsniffs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >chudbar deadlifts

        just squat gay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cleans

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cleans are good, but this thread is about hypertrophy, for which cleans are awful.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're just a retard who thinks 4pl8 is a heavy/good deadlift, when it's literally achievable in less than 3 months on SS.
    A decent deadlift starts at 6pl8+, and a good deadlift is 7pl8+. Men who deadlift 6pl8+ conventional generally are not dyels.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even Zach evett or whatever he was called didn't hit 4 plate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >over 200kg
      That's weak. That's like 180 kg x 5, literal 4-6 months on SS tier.

      To sum up this and every other deadlift thread: all you dyel retards on fit think that somehow a 4pl8 or 4.5pl8 deadlift is strong/impressive, when it's the same tier as a 2pl8 bench. People who bench 2pl8 are dyels and people who deadlift 4.5 pl8 are dyels. This has nothing to do with the deadlift being ineffective and everything to do with the fact that those numbers are simply not very strong.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unless you start out obese, you’re not pulling 405 in three months. And definitely not for reps like that other fag was saying. And if you *do* achieve that, it’s not going to be by doing 1x5 deadlifts 1.5 times per week. Post body, SS shill.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're just a GDE and weak-minded. These are pedestrian and easily obtainable numbers on the program. Many people end the program with 4pl8 x 5 squats and 4.5 pl8 x 5 diddies. Sit down and shut up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          *doesn’t post body*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >waist under the door knob
            >that garden gnome fro
            You will never make it manlet garden gnome

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I’m 6’1 and Arab brah. Read up on camera angles.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Doubt

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You have a single example of a guy who ended with 50 lbs less and think it's evidence to the contrary? You think that means no one gets over 4pl8 x 5 because he didn't? Are you retarded?

            I’m [...]. To be clear, I deadlift and I think it’s good for hypertrophy. I think people who disagree should look at guys like Arnold, Ronnie, Cbum…every big guy ever, and realize that they might be wrong. I just think you’re overselling how fast noob gains are and how good starting strength is.

            Getting a 3.5pl8 x 5 deadlift in 3 months is not as unrealistic as you think for a young and reasonably athletic male. Men like that often start at 2pl8 x 5 and increment their deadlifts by 15-10 lbs for the first few weeks. That rapidly adds up to 150 lbs in 3 months.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >many people
              Name one, or post body.

              • 1 month ago
                riceballman

                Me. I ended with 420 x 5 squat at 175 lbs, 5'11

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Post body, anon who totally achieved 2.5x bw squat for reps after 3 months trust me bro

              • 1 month ago
                riceballman

                I post in /plg/ all the time. And I didn't say 3 months, I said the end of SS. 7 months.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Damn good shit anon im mirin

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nice, but we were talking about what you can do in three months, not 7. Still very impressive strength for that time and just in general, and props for actually posting (didn’t realize you were a tripfag).

              • 1 month ago
                riceballman

                A 4pl8 deadlift on SS is entirely reasonable in 3 months for an athletic male.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’m

          *doesn’t post body*

          . To be clear, I deadlift and I think it’s good for hypertrophy. I think people who disagree should look at guys like Arnold, Ronnie, Cbum…every big guy ever, and realize that they might be wrong. I just think you’re overselling how fast noob gains are and how good starting strength is.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Once I started taking deadlift training serious I got to about 405 in a month and a half. I have long arms and legs though so results may vary.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Where you lifting prior to doing the deadlifts like squatting and doing back work?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but I was mostly doing meme routines and never actually did any lower back work or any remarkable weight on squats. I started doing 3 different deadlift variations through the week following a PPL DUP program and it did wonders on all of my lifts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      LMFAO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They’re also fat you dumbass. For non competitive powerlifters getting fat and fucking up your joints just so you can impress three people at the gym for ten seconds is fucking stupid. And honestly it’s pretty fucking stupid for most people who are powerlifters too and random shows
      >yeah it hurts when I walk and I’m a fatass but I deadlifted 700 pounds and got third place in a powerlifting meet nobody cares about!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, fat in a weight restricted sport. Retard. And yeah, turns out you need to harbor reasonable body fat percentages to be strong while natty. You're the one with body dysmorphophia who thinks 12% bf is the superior state.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honest question here. 4pl8 is 2 on each side right? I can do a set of 4 with 6pl8s total. Never tried my 1r max tbh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        4 each side

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's 405 lbs. Sorry bud.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Gotcha. Getting there.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love deadlifts and they make me better at climbing. Kindly fuck off, moron.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but we are in an odd time where acknowledging you’re in the gym to look good and get big muscles is seen as a bad thing. You need to train like a powerlifter and athlete and fuck up your joints and see subpar results for absolutely no reason or at most playing 10% better in a rec league nobody cares about. Still like doing deadlifts though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the reason powerlifters fuck up their joints isn't due to deadlifts, it's mostly bench, shit messes up your rotator cuffs long term for pretty much everyone.

      competitive benches are wider than gym benches for this reason, they strain your shit less.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like deadlifts, it's my favorite lift, and even I know it sucks for hypertrophy and is useless outside of the gym. You rarely lift things in real life in the deadlift stance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      deadlifts are great for hypertrophy, just not the kind many people care about, there are not many exercises that target glutes as well as deadlifts do, and there aren't that many that translate directly to power in other movements such as jumping either.

      They’re also fat you dumbass. For non competitive powerlifters getting fat and fucking up your joints just so you can impress three people at the gym for ten seconds is fucking stupid. And honestly it’s pretty fucking stupid for most people who are powerlifters too and random shows
      >yeah it hurts when I walk and I’m a fatass but I deadlifted 700 pounds and got third place in a powerlifting meet nobody cares about!

      powerlifting has weight classes most dudes outside of the higher or open classes are not fat in the least, retardo.

      Honest question here. 4pl8 is 2 on each side right? I can do a set of 4 with 6pl8s total. Never tried my 1r max tbh

      it's 4 on each side.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >glutes
        Lunges, split squats, hell even squats are way better

        >jumping
        deadlift is slow and controlled. Jumpers practice explosive lifts, not deadlifts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lunges, split squats, hell even squats are way better

          none of these are better than deadlifts and squats have once again a higher risk of injury than deadlifts do.

          >deadlift is slow and controlled

          are you actually retarded my man?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > Getting stronger doesn't help you jump higher
          Absolute retard

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No it doesn't you absolute dingdong. If it were true all powerlifters have 40 inch verticals.

            • 1 month ago
              riceballman

              No, because explosivity is controlled by your ability to quickly recruit muscle mass and contract it. That's essentially genetically determined. Getting stronger means there's more to recruit and helps a bit (but also adds weight), but how high you can jump isn't particularly trainable. The best way to increase your power clean--an expression of power--is to increase your deadlift. What does that tell you about jumping?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              God I forget some time how fucking stupid many people are.
              Anon, you can't into basic logic. Fuck's sake.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based deadlifts turned from my least favorite lift to my favorite lift. I alternate sumo and conventional on pull days and then do romanian on leg days.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You rarely lift things in real life in the deadlift stance.
      That's not how it works, brainlet. How often do you squat things in real life? The point is it makes your muscles stronger not what position you do shit in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You rarely lift things in real life in the deadlift stance.
      That's not how it works, brainlet. How often do you squat things in real life? The point is it makes your muscles stronger not what position you do shit in.

      You guys are both retards. You absolutely do lift things IRL via hip and knee extension while isometrically contracting the back musculature and abs. This is EXACTLY what happens in both lifts. You guys are so fucking dumb.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, you're dumb, because you think your point somehow precludes mine. Obviously you lift shit by extending your hips. The point is you don't have to be in some specific stance, the lift just makes you stronger for all applications.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No shit, squatting makes you globally better at hip extension even if you're not squatting. Your point doesn't preclude mine, sorry.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh I can't disagree, most people seem to deadlift just to brag about it. Idk about how good of exercise it is

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlifts are the physical manifestation of toxic masculinity

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gay

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because we are better

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And the only reason other lifters don't do those weights and orm is because they'd rather not snap their spines or permanently loosen discs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      deadlifts have one of the lowest risks of injury most athletes such as swimmers, runners and climbers do them.

      >sumo
      >genetic outlier top 10 worldwide
      You really think this was a good example?
      People look big from the front if they have big arms, big chest, big shoulders, and big quads. The deadlift trains none of these things well.

      >one example

      feel free to check any weight class below 80kg almost all deadlift specialists are just skinny dudes you absolute autist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like if you do injury yourself doing them it's not gonna be a minor injury though

        There's a powerlifter at my gym who has perfect form evetytime I see him but he still manage to herniate a disc

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you can say the same thing about literally every compound lift ever, you're more likely to fuck up your back doing rows than deadlifts.

          deadlifts are not very technical compared to squats hence why the risk of injury isn't that high, it's a very natural movement.

          It's recreation, I enjoy it.
          [...]
          It's almost like a weight class sport that has two two lower body movements that are also much heavier than the upper body movement favors people who specialize in those two and don't develop their upper body. Amazing.

          almost as if you were wrong then?
          nice.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlifts, squats, and deadlifts are all great for muscle building and anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong. Also, deadlifts give you a big thick back, and if you disagree with this you don’t have a big thick back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're a fucking retard. I thought we left subhumans like you on r/fitness in 2010. Go read a study about what muscles DL train you dumb moron. You're just another proof that deadlift trannies are people who never trained and just regurgitate what they've read on r3ddit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He couldn't even make a list of three without repeating lol.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Could anyone give some tips on how I can get a better deadlift? I'm currently on 3.5pl8 doing 3x8 but really struggling once I add weight.

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