Try having to lift for years as fatty and then dieting for months and still looking bad because still just under 20 bodyfat lol
You got It easy as frick.
I know guys who started looking amazing 4 months in, and those who are still in DYEL mode after 2 years. It all depends on your genetics. It's very much possible that you don't have the genes for it. >inb4 nooo waahh they ate different
Nope, I know a pair who lived together, and ate the same food, and did the exact same workouts.
Also, he's right. Gym is a waste of money if you are unsure about your genes. A DYEL occupying space also does a disservice to people who can actually gain muscle. Buy a pair of rings, and a pullup bar.
I know a super skelly Who everyone complimented after 3 months in the gym.
I also know another one that was made fun of because he didnt make any gains in more than a year lol.
cca a month or two. If youtrain regulary every 1-2 days your muscles get swollen constant. Maybe it noz gains already in mass but in volume visible .
Test it on people you met for a while. You see yourself daily but who not see you often will notice the smaller changes like "Hey Anon, long time no see, whats you been? I see you getting leaner"
>week
That's what I'm asking homosexual, how long till it's visible
2-3 months for yourself
6-10 for others
this is for small noticeable gains
respectable gains will take 2-4 years of consistency
This is fricked, all that effort and I still have to hate myself for months on end
Try having to lift for years as fatty and then dieting for months and still looking bad because still just under 20 bodyfat lol
You got It easy as frick.
Fatties still have more sex than me, and I dont have any
you will always see yourself as a skeleton
>all that effort
Did you achieve your skeleton arms after 1 week of being a lazy sedentary slob?
LMAO
Wait till he hears thst you only get TRUELY big after 10 plus years of lifting
Are you underage or just a gay?
Don't forget you lose it shortly after quitting so you'll be lifting for the next 30 years.
3 months minimum with good routine and diet
just take roids you impatient homosexual
Stop lifting and do calisthenics, if you are really a skelly
I know guys who started looking amazing 4 months in, and those who are still in DYEL mode after 2 years. It all depends on your genetics. It's very much possible that you don't have the genes for it.
>inb4 nooo waahh they ate different
Nope, I know a pair who lived together, and ate the same food, and did the exact same workouts.
Also, he's right. Gym is a waste of money if you are unsure about your genes. A DYEL occupying space also does a disservice to people who can actually gain muscle. Buy a pair of rings, and a pullup bar.
if you're not seeing gains immediately after your first workout then its all over
he's not entirely wrong tbh, most the times I get a pump certain muscle groups look far better definitioned than they actually are
two weeks
I know a super skelly Who everyone complimented after 3 months in the gym.
I also know another one that was made fun of because he didnt make any gains in more than a year lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
When you have nothing in your life, you don't want additional difficulty, there's no virtue in mental breakdowns when everyone else is having fun.
Read the greeks
>missing the point
If getting a good body were easy everyone would have one and it wouldn't mean shit that you have one too.
cca a month or two. If youtrain regulary every 1-2 days your muscles get swollen constant. Maybe it noz gains already in mass but in volume visible .
Test it on people you met for a while. You see yourself daily but who not see you often will notice the smaller changes like "Hey Anon, long time no see, whats you been? I see you getting leaner"
just cut
The only novice lifters who should cut are fat fricks.
You are wasting time cutting if you are already small
Eat more
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