I am already a norwood 3, and have started using 5% minoxidil, microneedling and ketocenazole shampoo.

I am already a norwood 3, and have started using 5% minoxidil, microneedling and ketocenazole shampoo. should i even bother trying finasteride if these cant grow my hair back? from what i've been reading fin mostly helps maintaining hair and will only regrow small amounts of hair, so why would i use fin if im stuck at norwood 3? is minoxidil even going to do anything for the temples?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >should i even bother trying finasteride if these cant grow my hair back? from what i've been reading fin mostly helps maintaining hair
    And? do you wanna be Norwood 4?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      once it's past norwood 2 stage, it doesnt really matter how much fruther it progresses, i cant have a nice hairstyle and have to keep my hair buzzed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bald top and ponytail is alpha as fuck

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Everything in life is about confidence. The two most successful pickup artists I’ve known where balding badly. Those two got me laid as a wingman so many times I can’t count.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You think norwood 2+ is just as bad as having a total slap head? lol besides you can buy time for a transplant if you want but not if you've lost too much ground.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How old are you?
    >Is minoxidil even going to do anything for the temples?
    There's no reason it wouldn't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      im 23, been losing my hair since 16 and the family doctor told me i was too young to start medication at that age

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >23
        I'd trial finasteride then.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i already bought 5mg finasteride, but now im having second thoughts about using it, should i try 1.25mg every other day or 0.25mg everyday?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            either do topical or microdose 0.1mg ed
            you then need to count how much hair you are still losing and if you have side effect
            use at least 6months
            if no side effect and good result obviously let it be
            if no good result up the dose until you get sides or good result
            If sideeffects try topical

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Crush up two 1mg finasteride pills in your minoxidil bottle. The dropper is 1ml. That will give you a nice low topical dosage that will only block dht where you put it. Its also cheaper doing it that way.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Topical finasteride seems like the way to go paired with microneedling and scalp massage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that even available yet to get?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes. It's available in a spray. Saw it on hims or one of those sites. I'm like norwood 12.5 and looked into it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          From my research its too high of a dosage. Its better and cheaper to make your own with fin pills. You can just smash them in a bag and put them in your minoxidil bottle. If you dont trust me use a dosage calculator to figure out the % in a single milliliters when you put 2 mg into a 60ml bottle.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t fight it, make peace with it. You will drive yourself crazy trying to hang on.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How often are you using ketocenazole?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      2 - 3 times per week, i leave it on for around 10 minutes, it really cleans up my scalp, infact i would recommend using it even if you are not losing your hair

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cool. What brand or do you think it even matters?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but I use Nizoral. It's really harsh on the hair so make sure you use a good conditioner after.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Get a FUE transplant to restore hairline, if you started at Norwood 1, maybe even 2, you could have been salvaged but you waited too long. Afterwards proceed with the following

    2. Minoxidil, it works on every part of your skin that has hair follicles, the bullshit about it not working on temples etc is FDA nonsense, pay it no mind

    3. 1-1.25mg finasteride per day for the rest of your life, despite the immense online fear mongering, the benefits are immense and extend far beyond hair loss, most cases of sides are due to nocebo. If you get the impression that it doesn't work after 6-8 months you can try dutasteride but fin should be alright. Don't use more than 1.25mg.

    4. Microneedling etc is a nice bonus to the stack but not necessary, if you feel like doing that shit it will give you some extra progress down the line

    Ignore every other comments by pathetic dyels who failed to restore their hairline and do what needs to be done. Godspeed, anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the benefits of nuking my most potent androgen are immense

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't know which isoenzymes fin blocks
        Might as well not remove your wisdom teeth while you're at it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >which isoenzymes fin blocks
          Stop using terminology you aren't familiar with, you will inevitably sound retarded.. Fin blocks 5-alpha reductase - do you know what an isozyme is? It would something that catalyzes that same reaction; this would be anything converting testosterone into DHT, which I'm saying is something you do NOT want systemically because nuking your DHT is not a desirable effect.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >uhhh stop using terminology you aren't familiar with, I don't like being wrong, also lowering a hormone that's only useful for transitioning from a teenager into an adult (with a drug that leaves the neurosteroid counterpart intact) and has a ton of useful functions such as enlarging your prostate is uhhh bad for you
            Stfu retard, go jerk off at your reflective cue ball scalp in the mirror while reading affirmations about self worth or whatever bullshit you're into

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >dht
              >a hormone that's only useful for transitioning from a teenager into an adult
              Lol. Lmao even.
              >is uhhh bad for you
              Correct. If you don't have prostatic hyperplasia and don't want to transition, nuking your DHT is retarded - and I'm guessing you don't have an enlarged prostate.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              finasteride shills always react so strangely
              you can tell their brains are completely feminised after years with no DHT

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ..did you remove your wisdom teeth?
          enjoy no jaw gains

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hi reaper

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seconding this on everything other than taking dutasteride

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ye it's only a last resort if recipient is unresponsive but has actual possibility of sides that are not just nocebo unlike fin.
        Forgot to include using tretinoin before minoxidil to increase effectiveness cause it converts it into its active form

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fin stopped working for me after 5 years so I switched to 0.5mg/EOD of dut and the results have been great. No new side effects other than watery semen on occasion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Retarded post. NEVER get a hair transplant unless you've stabilized your hair loss. And that'll only happen if you take an anti-androgen like Finasteride or Dutasteride. If you go under the knife and get the hair transplant, you're going to look like shit in 2 years -- you'll have a crescent at the front of your forehead and no hair behind it.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just start buzzing down now instead of spending your life rubbing expensive hormone-disrupting pharmacological goo into your head.

    I took the baldpill 4 years ago and it never stopped me getting laid or having a good quality of life - you feel awkward for like a month and then everyone accepts it and you never have to think about it again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i am already buzzing my hair down, but i feel like i must give it a try so that 10 - 20 years down the line i dont have any regrets

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your trying to fight nature and genetics anon. Do you really think it’s possible to win that fight?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          if i can keep my hair for 5 - 10 more years to fool a girl into having my kid, then the medications have done their job

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >asking a board filled with mentally ill posters if you should take hormone replacement therapy or collagen depleting topicals or scar inducing needles etc
    ngmi op, I'm sorry

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you sound like the only mentally ill moron around here

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >uhhh stop using terminology you aren't familiar with, I don't like being wrong, also lowering a hormone that's only useful for transitioning from a teenager into an adult (with a drug that leaves the neurosteroid counterpart intact) and has a ton of useful functions such as enlarging your prostate is uhhh bad for you
        Stfu retard, go jerk off at your reflective cue ball scalp in the mirror while reading affirmations about self worth or whatever bullshit you're into

        I know you're angry but lashing out at the only Anons who are trying to help you isn't the way to go my dude

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at this disgrace

    I was of fin and minox
    I droped minox and 5% of what I had recovered fell out... People call those minox dependent hairs.. the root is very small

    I will keep fin for a bit and then will start minox again

    My head isnt touched my sunlight in 2 years

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you stop using minox you're effectively cutting off the growth phase and slingshot your hair into telogen effluvium, the shedding might be temporary depending on how long you've been using it but if the hairs were still miniaturized then you washed all the money and time down the drain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Feels bad man. I stopped minox after a year of using it now I'm back on it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly, you're not completely fucked yet. If you can afford it you should opt for a fue transplant and save yourself a lot of time and mental anguish instead of arbitrarily waiting for drugs to regrow it. Just maintaining your hair with fin + minox will be a million times easier and less stressful as well

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is me ... Let me add

      I am 34yo, my hair started to jump from my head when I started lifting

      My 2 grandfathers did from prostate cancer

      My 1st week of fin was very painfull.. under my balls was like if someone kicked me very hard there

      Now it doesnt hurt

      I bet my prostate was enlarging

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Out of curiosity, how much fin per day were you taking?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          5mg

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Its all working fine, i am not tanked

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep your estradiol in check, it's common for it to go out of range with such high dosages due to more test getting converted via aromatization
                Also sick rear delts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                or just don't take poison and you don't have to worry about chemically induced gyno, ed, low t or depression

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >or just don't take poison and you don't have to worry about chemically induced gyno, ed, low t or depression

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Don't take something that will keep you attractive and aesthetic because it has a symptom that occurs in uncommonly high doses that can be easily prevented if you know why it happens and a few nocebo symptoms that aren't even real, just lose your hair and be depressed instead

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nocebo
                look up what metabolites 5ar is a catalyst for. everyone who uses fin long-term ends up on early T replacement therapy. Good luck.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >look up what metabolites 5ar is a catalyst for. everyone who uses fin long-term ends up on early T replacement therapy. Good luck.

                (1080ng/dl after 8 years on fin and 3 suppressive cycles btw)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can basedjack all you want bro. Just thought I'd throw a line out there for any Anons who aren't temporarily insane from going bald, so that they can make sound decisions for their future.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >going bald
                >sound decision for their future

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're going to age and you're going to die. Deal with it.

                >Projects his disappointment at losing his hair after several filters of rationalization to validate his choices
                >Helping others make sound decisions
                Ffs lad

                I have a full head of hair.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're going to age and you're going to die
                >so heckin do it naturally and as miserably as possible

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >naturally
                yes
                >miserably
                no

                you should be focusing on areas of self-improvement and becoming genuine people that other people want to be around. it's not that it's good to lose your hair, it's that the provided solutions cause worse and unnatural problems. minoxidil ages your face. finasteride degrades your mental and your sexual well being. dermarollers cause the formation of scar tissue. I wouldn't go any further than a keto shampoo aided by a healthy lifestyle. I know many young guys who are balding and getting married and having children.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                kek those men are clearly low quality, what does it matter if they have hair or not?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                they would of looked like shit even if they had hair

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Projects his disappointment at losing his hair after several filters of rationalization to validate his choices
                >Helping others make sound decisions
                Ffs lad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why no sunlight?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >My head isnt touched my sunlight in 2 years
        That could be one reason why it looks like shit.

        Summer is starting here.
        All this is calculated. I will start cardio outdoor and get some sun.

        My baseline since I started fixing all this was terrible
        I am doing it step by step

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My head isnt touched my sunlight in 2 years
      That could be one reason why it looks like shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/zdlY6vH.png

      Its all working fine, i am not tanked

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >5% minoxidil, microneedling and ketocenazole shampoo
    memes
    >finasteride
    start doing this.
    when JUST starts you just do finasteride.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >finasteride
      poison

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going bald sucks and you should have a go at slowing the process/preserving your hair, but if you're not having success you should lean into it IMO.

    Cultivate an attractive lifestyle, take care of your body, develop your confidence.

    If baldness is your only flaw, you're doing better than most.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      EMBRACE

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did you wait till Norwood 3 to take action?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OBLIGATORY

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He only uses minox on his beard which is completely retarded. Minox is like 98% alcohol and will age your skin terribly.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Use it on your face to grow a beard, then go bald

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IMO if you aren't gonna jump on Fin everything else is memes why bother try regrow something thats on the way out anyways.

    >t. 22 years old on fin since i was 20

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      minox can regrow and maintain hair for 6-8 years. thats 6 - 8 extra years of having hair without fucking up your hormones, plus ketocenazole is also a weak DHT inhibitor so its going to slow things down even more

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        exactly this!
        OP said he is 23, so with minox he can at least keep his hair until he hits 30 and it's more socially acceptable to be bald.
        finasteride = watery semen = castration

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.

        Minox doesn't save your dying hair. It only grows new vellus hairs which mostly happens only in the crown region. It won't do shit to stop your hair loss. Anyone telling you that finasteride will kill your dick or sex drive is lying to you. I had "symptoms" but after the first month, they all dissipated, and I'm more virile than BEFORE treatment.

        t. Fin user for 5 years

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it depends.
          around 20% of people that use minoxidil get very good results from it. if you are in that group of people than you can maintain alot of hair for 6 - 8 years

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Minoxidil is a growth stimulant. Period. The only hair you're "maintaining" is the hair that grew because of the minoxidil. It doesn't stop your hair loss.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              yea but you will still have a full head of hair for half a decade

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek, you are going to fucking flatfline one day and need serious HRT. thanks for playing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            3 years ago I was a NW3.5, and now I'm a NW0. If I didn't hop on 0.5mg finasteride a day, I would've looked like a slaphead. Cope and seethe baldcel.

            yea but you will still have a full head of hair for half a decade

            No you won't. You'll look like the guy in this picture. Diffuse growth, mostly in the crown region, but all of the basline follicles will undergo telogen phase and thin out.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              if he didn't use minoxidil he would have been fully bald. seems like a win to me, he kept his hair for a few more years without fucking up his hormones

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Spotted the retard. Finasteride and Dutasteride inhibit the synthesis of DHT, an androgen which does NOTHING after your teens except fuck your hair.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ur body just uses it for no raisin! Block it everywhere!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                my moron you literally have vestigial organs in your body which do nothing and will kill you if they fail. Just because it's in your body doesn't mean it's good.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are going off of extremely old, geocities website tier "science". Let me guess you think the tailbone is vestigial too right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >an androgen which does NOTHING after your teens except fuck your hair
                Wrong. DHT plays a role in sexual health. Fin decreased my erection quality, sex drive and coom amount That being said, I still take it because the alternative is going bald.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                go into any forum that you want about finasteride, reddit, youtube comments, videos, facebook groups. the side effects are REAL and alot more common than you guys think. everyone mentions testicle pain, watery semen, gyno. others talk about weaker erection or even complete ED. why the hell do retards like you keep denying the side effects?????

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                should i believe retards on reddit, or the studies which demonstrate those retards think their dicks are falling off even when they're on placebo?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you read the studies you'd see that the % is higher than those that are on placebo and that the effects can last as long and in some cases longer than the time on the drug.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                studies funded by the same company that is selling the drug...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                this is not only wrong but also neglects to mention the mechanism by which fin inhibits the production of dht, which has been mentioned I believe several times itt.
                >pot calling the kettle black
                every time, kys you terrible poster

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              post body

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heard from leo from Leo and longevity that 10% minoxidil makes a massive difference in comparison to 5% but you can't get it otc in the us, might have to import

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This stack will stop or even regrow your hair. Any sides are a meme as long as you live a healthy lifestyle and aren't a fat fuck.
    >Dutasteride 0.5mg daily
    >Minoxidil 5% once a day with tretinoin (don't need to use it twice)
    >Pyrilutamide once a day
    The dut will stop almost all conversion to DHT. Minoxidil will stimulate growth. Pyrilutamide has a much higher binding affinity than dht so it will block all androgen receptors on the scalp. Great thing about pyrilutamide is it breaks down into inert metabolites when it enters the bloodstream so no sides. There, I just cured you all of balding.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dut
      no thanks, tried the switch from fin to dut and it wrecked me after 2 months.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How so?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >insomnia/restlessness
          >dry eyes
          >face acne
          now i'm back on fin and feel better. really wanted to make the switch because i was after regrowth on the crown but no such luck.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Menstruation blood can help regrow hair and beard

    I like to dogstyle my wife during her period and paint my face with the blood and ran around the bed doing a indian war chant

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    minox takes up a lot of time, dries out your skin, ages your skin, and doesn't even work as well as fin

    using all that shit before fin is just weird

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does massaging your scalp help with hairloss? Can it make it worse?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      did that shit for 7 months, 10 minutes everynight. didnt do jack shit for me. in face when i stopped more hair grew back because i was pulling hair our when i was massaging

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Hairchads win again.
    Indeed we do, anon.
    Indeed we do.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm

    this is not only wrong but also neglects to mention the mechanism by which fin inhibits the production of dht, which has been mentioned I believe several times itt.
    >pot calling the kettle black
    every time, kys you terrible poster

    and I have a full head of hair.
    >Finasteride's proven medical efficacy and extremely high safety profile.
    this is a meme and I was having arguments about this over 10 years ago on all of da forums with shills like you.
    >misery loves company
    so do guys taking HRT for a cosmetic problem

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