proof that seed oils are healthy

the average person eats about 700 calories of vegetable oil (seed oil) per day.
this unnaturally high amount of polyunsaturated fat was never consumed by humans until industrial seed oils were a thing and that is SURELY ok for our health.

linoleic acid, a polyunsaturated fat in seed oil, is 40x more susceptible to oxidation than oleic acid and that is surely ok for our health.
polyunsaturated fats oxidizes easily and produces oxidation products that is toxic and safe for human health because the American Heart Association says so.

one of these oxidation byproducts is called aldehyde, a known toxin.
aldehyde is found in meals fried with vegetable oil 100 times to 200 times higher than the daily recommended limit set by the WHO but it's ok because most health organizations say consuming polyunsaturated fat is ok because it just is bro.

4-HNE, the most toxic aldehyde is produced from eating high quantities of fat that oxidizes quickly (polyunsaturated fat)
4-HNE is linked to cardiovascular and inflammatory complications, diabetes, and FUCKING ALZHEIMERS (don't worry about it though, the reason why deaths linked to Alzheimer's has quadrupled in the past 30 years is because of.. uhh... just age, dude.... uh- hum- umm- uhh it's totally normal)

the prevalence of seed oil consumption and prevalence of Alzheimer's being directly correlated is kinda weird but correlation does not equal causation lmao hahah.
the prevalence of seed oil consumption and prevalence of obesity and diabetes being directly correlated is kinda weird but correlation does not equal causation lmao hahah.
Israel, the country with a polyunsaturated fat consumption 8% higher than the US and 10-12% higher than Europe having a paradoxically high prevalence of cardiovascular problems, diabetes, and obesity is kinda weird but correlation does not equal causation lmao hahah.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    seed oil being heated in an acid wash process, being neutralized, then bleached and deodorized up to 260 Celsius creates oil that is safe to consume and totally healthy lmao hahah.
    studies showing that seed oils are safe is totally not funded by seed oil industry with seed oils being the 243rd most traded product and a total trade of 13.6 billion as of 2020.
    vegetable oil is 100% safe for human consumption!!!

    guys use seed oil as much as you want they are very healthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thanks doc

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you mean to say empty nutritionally

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the average person eats about 700 calories of vegetable oil (seed oil) per day.
    No way this is true

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Americans do, Europeans around 600-630

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I believe it. Considering the high amount of processed food containing it (look at how many bagged/boxed foods contain palm, canola, vegetable/soý and corn oil), the fact that restaurants use it all the time due to low cost, and the prevalence of it as a "healthy" fat, it makes sense. The average person also eats way more than they should which is why the majority of the developed world is overweight/obese, so the numbers aren't unbelievable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sneed oils are in everything man
      they're in pretty much all processed snacks
      they might even be in your bread

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Checked in the grocery aisle. They’re definitely in your bread and buns unless you spend double for chad bread.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i think they are used in the process of making the bread.. but it must be very small amounts. How much fat can be a loaf of bread? 1g?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depends on the bread.
            Sandwich bread in general uses high amounts of sugar and oil in order to stay moist longer. Without it, they would go rock-hard in a day or two just like a proper loaf.

            If you must have bread, make it yourself. Or buy a bread machine if you really can't be fucked to take 30 minutes out of your week.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              This.
              Good homemade whole grain bread made without sugar or seed oils is god-tier. Don't let the ketolard propaganda tell you otherwise.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yep sadly even many brands of bread have like 20% of the calories from seed oils
        This is one of the major reasons behind bread intolerance.
        Bread made without seed oils should only have 2% calories from fat. When you have 20% calories from fat, they added way too much seed oil.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait I thought a baguette was only bread , flour and yeast, where does the fat come from? Does the yeast produce it?
          Anyway yes bread should have negligible amounts of fat
          t. Frog

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They add seed oils to the bread.
            It might help preserve it longer on something.

            Surely you have felt the greasy texture of a croissant and realized that they add fat (seed oil) to it?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I always make sure to buy "pur beurre" (only butter) croissant from the local bakery but once or twice in big bakeries there was something suHispanicious about the croissant for sure

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They add seed oils to the bread.
            It might help preserve it longer on something.

            Surely you have felt the greasy texture of a croissant and realized that they add fat (seed oil) to it?

            You add fat to bread to make the texture softer and to keep the bread from drying out/going stale as quickly. Traditionally this would be olive oil or butter or something but companies these days use seed oils because they have a better shelf life.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >better shelf life
              Well yeah you can't smell the rancidity

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >because they have a better shelf life
              it's because they're cheap and Companies These Days do not care about your health, they never have.

              bottled seed/vegetable oils are already rancid by the time they make it to a shelf, i can't imagine there's any difference in the ones they add to the slop.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah you got oil in store bread but there is actually a bit of fat content (1,5g in 100g of bread) in bakery made bread so I was wondering where the fuck it's coming from since the only ingredients are water, flour and yeast

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                White flour should have 2% calories from fat.
                When I worked at a pizza shop we put seed oil in the pizza mix to help make the dough sticky.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no way people consume 6 tablespoons of oil a day on average

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Basically I'm just not gonna consume them (the seed oils) I know.... UGH I know..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's just that I'm not gonna consume them is all

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not reading it and I'm not switching to seed oils. I will continue to eat a diet high in saturated animal fats solely because it gives me the type of body that makes women and garden gnomes uncomfortable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > because it gives me the type of body that makes women and garden gnomes uncomfortable

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, no thanks. Good luck though

        Post body

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That was a body in my post, also you claimed first that your body makes “women and garden gnomes uncomfortable”, so why don’t you delight us with a picture of yours

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is the most long winded and retarded way to say "no u" I have ever seen

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        find me one fat >person who doesn't eat sneed oils

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe you should have read it

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, no thanks. Good luck though

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ketoschizo : the thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are a bitch and we all know it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't understand it and I don't believe so you're a schizo!
      FTFY

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      stfu you gay you dont have to be a ketoschizo to hate seed oils
      (Verification not required)

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Very based post. There's no reason to defend seed oils when there are so many better options around.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the average person eats about 700 calories of vegetable oil (seed oil) per day.
    [X] Doubt

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      graph is a little fucky but here you go
      https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-'Displacing-Foods-of-Modern-Commerce'-Are-the-A-Knobbe-Stojanoska/9e4027f2510e89bd7c3db3cb7ada0936067d2fd7/figure/1

      study is on Americans but Europeans only consume 10-20% less than Americans

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      btw 80 grams of vegetable oil = 707 calories

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >eat stir fry cooked in this shit from the chink place
    >feel like im gonna have a heart attack
    Simpwe as

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not even keto, and I’m trying to cut these out. I say trying because if you’re a burger, then guess what? It’s in everything! And don’t get me started on how much more it costs to avoid them!

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me, its butter and lard like all those generations ate that coincidentally didn't have an obesity problem.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >linoleic acid, a polyunsaturated fat in seed oil, is 40x more susceptible to oxidation than oleic acid and that is surely ok for our health.

    Lmao, please, explain in your own word what oxidation of linoleic acid is, and what it looks like.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      NTA but its when carbon to carbon double bonds (so-called unsaturated bonds) are "saturated" by becoming single carbon to carbon bonds, with the valence filled out by oxygen atoms.
      As a byproduct of this saturation, reactive oxygen species such as hydrogen peroxide are formed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        These are the people posting random studies off pubmed lmao my sides

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not an argument

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No need for that, brainlet, you exposed yourself.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Explain why he's wrong

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, but which one is tastier, seed oil or animal fat?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just not going to eat them but you do you

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll just stick to olive oil.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's in your opinion the healthiest alternative then? And why do you think so? I've been on the fence about seed oils myself too, but I want to hear better alternatives.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Olive oil, butter, beef fat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've heard negative things about animal fats. Why do you think that is? And is there a rebuttal for it? Butter tastes really good...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A long time ago some retards who don't understand the concept of correlation != causation decided that saturated fats are the root of all illnesses and obesity.
          Since this discovery was made, people have gotten fatter and unhealthier with every passing year.
          To answer your original questions: if you don't like the taste of animal fats, use cold pressed oils like olive or avocado.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've never cooked with avocado oil. It's pretty expensive, but I could try it sometime.

            Animal fats contain saturated fats which raise blood pressure and if you consume too much calories as well so you're getting fatter they're what will build up in your arteries.

            Solution is don't do a retarded fad diet like carnivore or keto, use olive oil sometimes and butter in moderation, and don't be a lardass and pack on body fat and you'll avoid the risks completely while not needing any seed oils

            See but the other person that responded said saturated fats have been demonized too much. Which is it? Are they that bad?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              They are demonized too much as they are a symptom of overeating excessively rich foods rather than a particular cause of a health problem

              Saturated fat consumption hasn't changed one bit in the past 50 years, and yet people get sicker and fatter with every year. Sneed oil consumption has doubled in the past 30 years.

              Wrong, saturated fat consumption has increased along with amounts of food and total calories in general

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                In Fatmerican at least saturated fat consumption is literally the exact same as it was 70 years ago

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So basically just cook with them as normal (as you would with sneed oils) yes? Basically, just don't eat im excess and it's fine.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's the difference in making olive oil and other seed oils (which I guess you refr to regular cooking onions oil)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Olive and avocado oil are made by just squeezing the fruits
              Canola oil for example is made in 100 different processing steps, one of which is washing the rancid oil in bleach

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Olive oils are natural fruit oils. No PUFAs. Only MUFA

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >saturated fats are the root of all illnesses and obesity.
            More like they cut people open and saw saturated fat and cholesterol clogged their vascular system until they keeled over from heart disease.

            >b-but muh
            Melt some butter and pour it down your drain. Report back with results.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Butter melts below body temperature.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >da butter in muh veins
                >dats just loob
                >hehe femboys hehehehehehhehe
                >*dies of heart attack*
                >last words: "de vegns, BTFO!! hehehe"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bluebyrd is very reliable. You should know butter doesn't just enter your veins unaltered right? Also that fat/cholesterol buildup in veins is an effect of inflammation not its own cause.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >haha
                >de fat in my veins is ackshually da inflammation :*~~
                >da buter is good, old garden gnome who died of heart disease says so!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah bro I forgot that you consume butter by injecting it directly into your bloodstream

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cut some carrots and wash them down your drain. Report back with results.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I juice veggies every day and have never had a clogged pipe in years.

                Yeah bro I forgot that you consume butter by injecting it directly into your bloodstream

                Pic rel. From countless studies on the subject

                Keep being willfully ignorant fag.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice pic bro. Gotta end this argument now though, it's time to inject some butter directly into my bloodstream.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Animal fats contain saturated fats which raise blood pressure and if you consume too much calories as well so you're getting fatter they're what will build up in your arteries.

          Solution is don't do a retarded fad diet like carnivore or keto, use olive oil sometimes and butter in moderation, and don't be a lardass and pack on body fat and you'll avoid the risks completely while not needing any seed oils

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Saturated fat consumption hasn't changed one bit in the past 50 years, and yet people get sicker and fatter with every year. Sneed oil consumption has doubled in the past 30 years.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Trust your taste buds.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >get olives
    >squeeze them
    >get oil
    Doesn't get healthier that that

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If anything this post is saying things that prove seed oils are NOT healthy? Might want to check your title there next time?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol. lmao even

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine consuming "snacks", what are you a fuckkng child?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it requires industrial processes I'm not eating it. I'm not even going to justify that position.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keto and anti seed oil have little to do with each other but I suspect keto might have some utility in helping to remove seed oils from fat deposits.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the average person eats about 700 calories of vegetable oil (seed oil) per day.
    wtf how. that's what I consume in a year

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ketolards seem to be retarded.

    You do realize all of the "vegan" doctors you hate and shit on say that you should minimize all sources of fat?

    Including oils, animal fats, nuts, seeds, avocados. Dr. Esselstyn, who reverses heart disease with a plant-based diet tells his patients that all oils and fats are harmful. And that's because we have direct evidence of it.

    Stop being retarded Americunts and realize the truth doesn't have to be on one extreme or the other. In fact, it almost always is somewhere in the middle.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    any processed fat is terrible. eat actual foods you brainlets

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BASED BROTHERS GET IT

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I eat cold pressed flaxseed oil with my quark which has also been eaten by my ancestors. Is that bad for me?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes it is you retard

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Israel, the country with a polyunsaturated fat consumption 8% higher than the US and 10-12% higher than Europe having a paradoxically high prevalence of cardiovascular problems, diabetes, and obesity is kinda weird
    maybe it's not so bad after all

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I make my stir frys with peanut oil and a little bit of sesame oil. Been thinking abt getting some avocado oil though. Heard it's pretty useful for making aioli and other sauces and shit. Honestly I got too much fucking oils in my kitchen though. I even have like two cans of coconut oil. I used to make homemade chocolates and desserts and shit with them, but now I just use it to make weird thai food. Oil is pretty aight, vegetable oil and canola kinda cringe though. Really don't see the purpose of them unless you're kind of broke since they're cheap. But idunno, a good peanut oil or olive oil is just way nicer as an all purpose cooking oil. Idunno abt polyunsaturated fats or whatever the fuck, sounds like retard bullshit pseudo science to me. 90% of nutrition is. I just eat what tastes good and keeps me IST.

    Anyways, what's your favorite oil anons?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Anyways, what's your favorite oil anons?
      I've been thinking about becoming the weird beef tallow guy. I hear animal fats tend to be better

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