>*tears your bicep*
Why are you still doing preacher curls again?
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Why are you still doing preacher curls again?
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Why do people even do curls?
Curls are my favorite lift.
biceps are one of the most visible muscle groups and aren't hit very hard by most normal training. they're a glamour muscle, one of the biggest determiners of whether you look like you lift, and it doesn't take that much effort to get them pretty big. why wouldn't you do them?
>it doesn't take that much effort to get them pretty big.
I wish bro, biceps are one of the "slower" muscles to grow (as in they have to be hit a lot to look good, not that they grow faster or slower than other muscles)
Because we’re not all coping DYELs like you
So you've got small arms huh?
Curling strength is actually quite useful in grappling, certain sex positions and real-world applications.
Which is why preacher curls suck even more since they completely eliminate stabilizer usage, unlike a real-world scenario. Who the frick even came up with this exercise.
>Who the frick even came up with this exercise.
Literally because they want to have the biggest numbers possible, and this shit gives them the biggest number.
Pick up a box, potted plant, or couch. You will absolutely involve the ‘ceps.
I don't.
Only standing barbell curls and hammer curls.
I need to work in standing barbell curls, but dumbbell hammer curls are the fricking shit. Love it
Redpill me on hammer curls. I already do ez bar curls and seated db curls bore me to death
Not those anons but it hits the bicep differently and hits your forearm harder then regular curls. I like doing them on a preacher bench.
been doing them for a month now at a low weight and so far so good.
Not that guy but they're great for the brachialis that sits under the biceps and gives your arm more fullness.
Disgusting minimalism
>be a moron
>ego lift
>enter snap city
many such cases
he didn't tear anything in that vid
frick you on about boy?
He tore all of his future paycheques up when he fired Tom
>He tore all of his future paycheques up when he fired Tom
This is a misnomer and a misconception. Tom wasn't fired at all, I resigned from the company since Tom no longer wanted to associated with Juji since he accused Tom of taking money from my own company.
I missed juji posting
I really do wish he'd come back. I want a vibrant renaissance of Tomposting.
ok but I seriously miss Tom, he was obviously important for making the videos better
juji is mostly unwatchable now
he was always just a pretty face
Juji as a roid addict should forgive Tom for his gambling addiction
the guy in the cropped shirt did frick up his bicep.
Post the video.
Sorry your muscles and tendons are weak anon. You can probably toughen them up if you lift.
Is he naked
Apparently lmao
I have a home gym and I am sometimes.
Why wouldn't you be?
penis flipping around is annoying, foreskin rubs head, also why I will never sleep naked
Getting some operator vibes from you
That’s cause their not preacher curls, they are priest curls.
jesus this dude turned into something else. I knew about him before IST back in like 2002, club540. What an unreal transformation.
yeah Tom's golem has come along nicely. too bad it became sentient and cut me out of the money
lmao tom you literally stole money from the company
Dude come on. Tom never stole anything. His work for Juji was tireless and I simply took what was coming to him. He made the channel from the ground up and I think he deserves more credit..
I really do think Tom got short ended
people want to think Tom was the israelite but in the end it was israeliteji
I dunno though, it seems really weird to pretty much throw your best friend away
I think a lot more happened that neither of them will admit
Also you just don't sue your friends
My issue is his content is worse now. I kinda wished they could have worked it out.
Tom definitely knew the youtube game. Juji should have replaced him with a professional.
seriously, the content is fricking shit now
Tom was pretty much an entire team in one guy
I know Tom seems like the villain here because Juji seems like an innocent lovable guy but now as I watch his boring ass video the illusion has wore off
I just miss my favorite fitness channel
I came in late to his channel but the most recent livestream videos.... I haven't even started. His videos with joey are alright, but the older ones with tom were nice. Might go back and watch older videos.
All I can say is be glad it happened.
The money thing aside, Tom was also toxic, threw tantrums (on one occasion he destroyed hotel room), threatened people, harassed Jujis wife, and so on. I think their friendship was already suffering a lot anyway. I do think it all stems from him thinking he wasn't getting the appreciation he deserved but maybe it's just a part of his personality we didn't really get to see.
I know man, Tom definitely has some problems, but I think it's an impulsive thing
He just needs help and he's basically a one man production crew and Juji's manager it was obviously too stressful
the stress was feeding into his instability and spiraling
Tom was destroying himself on purpose subconsciously just to get a break
He might have BDP or something, it's pretty common for men to ignore that kind of diagnosis because men don't care about mental illness as much as women
Juji is honestly too stupid, no offense I love the guy, to realize that there's an underlying mechanism to Tom's chaos
His ego clearly reached critical and blew up, so in Juji's eyes Tom is just a dick head and a bad hombre, but I don't buy it
How can you be best friends with someone for years and then all of a sudden believe they're evil?
It's just not so black an white, I think
I'm surprised you have watched jujis content and not realized he is a mongoloid. He is enjoyable when directed by someone who knows how to compose a video, but whenever he does something on his own accord it's pretty much always been terrible
Who would have thought it would come to this? We used to trashtalk tom all the time but now that he's gone we realize he was the soul of this channel.
I sometimes watch some of their old videos because they have some great energy. Now his videos just show a boring roidtroony doing boring lifts in his empty soulless gym.
just think about it it's fricking over we'll never have a good jujimufu video again
frick it was funny to shit on Tom but I really miss him
Nobody misses him but himself. Let him make his own name.
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>tfw they never did this because Tom left before the gym was built
>tfw juji only has the same few guests over and over all the time now
imagine having a homegym not even your friend wants to lift in...
when is the Boogs and Tom channel starting?
That's what bougs needs, a Tom
Never. Eric hates israelites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2TxBrfHoik&t=3m10s
Eric needs to pair up with Brian Shaw.
>I train these for exterminating israelites
holy shit boogs is antisemitic as frick
>I call these over pulls
BOOGER NOOO
Frick you Tom, dyel homosexual
holy motherfricking shit a flood of memories. remember his splits between chairs. or was that after he got crazy huge. What happened to that asian dude that was obsessed with noni juice or whatever it's called? i never could really do any tricks myself but that whole tricking parkour phase would have been nuts with todays social media. it was huge with media even back then before YT.
looked so much better before
looked way better in left
pretty sure he's got some oil injections too
>2002
So when juji was like 13 yo
Ok anon
Juji used to have a really cool thing going on back when he would make wacky videos with Antoine Vaillant doing flips and lifting weights. Now he's just any other fricked up drug addict bodybuilder. I'm still subbed but haven't watched his vids in months he just isn't entertaining. Needs a fun sidekick (not tom).
Tell me IST, who is he running from?
Isn't it obvious/
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Everytime this gets posted,
he is smaller
I swear
His past self
nattyness
lmfao
>when will they learn?
This is the gobling stealing your gains. He got so fricking swole...
Manhunt.
The Gains Goblin is real
Did he even tear his biceps?
When i worked out at the gym i always didnt like this exercise and almost never did it cause it caused pain on the biceps tendon. However now i do maltese and planche that put a lot of pressure on the biceps too so i cant say im safe from tearing my biceps while working out
holy roidgut, batman
The key is to do them on an incline bench so you can’t extend past a healthy range of motion. Idiots don’t them on these preacher curl pad things and then at the bottom they extend too far and stretch their bicep too much and it snaps.
or you can try to not be a special snowflake sperg, since there's nothing wrong with the preacher curl stand, not egolift like a goddamn moron (who deserves his trip to snap city) and remember that you can control the rom of your fricking arms
how the hell does a a preacher curl cause excess ROM?
wtf why is he naked
have a nice day op
>imagine the smell
do normal weight with full ROM and dont be a roidtroony and you wont get tears
before his mental illness
He loked better halfway through his mental illness when he was doing heavy barbell lifts with Tom, I like the look of just strong bodies like him in that Era, bugez or szatstrength more than the goofy bodybuilding body. There's no reason to go so crazy on steroids and being strong creates better aesthetics than cramming unnecessary mass on your frame imo. I want to be big but whatever got into him is ridiculous.
the issue is that all athletics will peak, especially non-skill-related things, and when you hit the peak you will have gotten there through continuous improvement, so the only way you can continue improving is a magical drug-fueled stairway to freak heaven
>before his mental illness
>their
The guy on the right in more recent times.
God those shoes look dumb
Antoine is based though and at least he competes and has better genetics, although he ruined his health already.
We all know what comes next.
cant wait to see them add into the statistics
TOM WTF THAT'S TRANSPHOBIC, TOM!!!
but the pump feels great, anon
one of my favorite things, low weight, high reps, chase that pump and feel like cooming
if you go heavy on preachers, you're asking for trouble
I like just doing cheat curls followed by hammer curls. Cheat curls feel so right.
I don't. I do barbell curls instead.
If I fail I just return it to extended position. If I need (never happened so far) I can drop the bar instead of dropping my ability to bend my arms.
preacher curls are the only valid way to do curls
preferably at as close to 90 degrees as possible
When I first started lifting, I did preacher curls for a few months, and one day I felt a bunch of snaps in my forearms. My forearms remained in constant pain for months. Was so upset cause I thought I permanently injured myself. Fortunately they eventually recovered. Never did preacher curls again though.
Double bicep DB curls are better and more based anyways so I am not.
Preacher benches mostly suck. Ideally they'd be more vertical so that your elbow is only a couple inches further forward than your shoulder. You don't fricking want peak tension at the bottom of a curl for safety reasons. A little bit is ok.
>not tearing his biceps to confuse the muscles
wtf both of them
>he wants asymmetrical biceps
Yeah I'm not doing this shit anymore
don't do preacher curls, they make you lift more than you should
Alright, so I rarely hear of people tearing their bicep curling. It's usually deadlifting. Is it just ego lifting that iscausing bicep tears?
I think it comes from going too heavy and incorrect lifting.
You should push yourself, but you should be only doing enough that you can maintain a good, slow, fluid motion. Only go up in weight, if you are doing like 15 reps easily. In my opinion, going for that extra rep is more beneficial and more safe than reaching for that extra 10lbs
>Only go up in weight, if you are doing like 15 reps easily
Seems like sound advice, if you can do 15 reps you're above the hypertrophy range and getting diminishing returns, regardless of number of reps if you're only doing <12 you're getting a good mix of strength and size
have you been in a gym before?
stop giving advice
Is this a pathetic attempt at bumping the thread?
no
all fields
This! 12 is perfect and 15 is useless, basically arm cardio!!
old football coach (I hated football but worked out with the team) used to tell us, "If you can do 20 of something, it ain't doing you any good. Add weight!"
And what made him qualified to give such advice?
Big muscles and nice to me on penis inspection day
>strength
>builds muscle
>hypertrophy
>builds muscle
>endurance
>builds muscle
>moving builds muscle
Whowouldathunkit
>those breasts
Take the sandowpill for maximum aesthetics, bros.
Roiding makes muscle big but not tendon
Idk tbh! But I’ve been lifting for over a decade and have been through numerous injuries. I don’t even do dead lift anymore (aka back snaps). I had a pec strain twice the last one was so bad i quit working out for a while (over a year) and had to see a PT. He had me do stretches and I can lift now but after facing enough injuries I always
>warm up
>avoid high injury risk exercises (dead lift, heavy curls, heavy squats, heavy flat bench press)
>pyramid up the weight
>rest each muscle more often
>rest 1-2 full weeks every couple months
Trust me on this because once you experience a loss of gains from injury or god forbid a tear. You will be treated like a subhuman, by girls at the taco shop, the cashier high schooler boys will try and mog you. After my injuries I realized that I took for granted the sacred gift god has given me, he allowed me to be a mogger. If your a blessed mogger thank God tonight
>Trust me on this because once you experience a loss of gains from injury or god forbid a tear. You will be treated like a subhuman, by girls at the taco shop, the cashier high schooler boys will try and mog you.
Lmao what the frick did the girl at the taco shop do to you?
treat me like a king when I’m jacked. Treated me like a subhuman when I was injured losing gains. Mogging is real and don’t believe girls when they tell you “muscles don’t matter” similar to “I really want a nice guy”.
>ego lifts, injuring himself
>blames the lifts
Based "never taking accountability for his actions" chad
Not it's from using a straight bar to curl
>"people who tear bicep on diddlies have weak tendons because they don't curl"
>"people who tear bicep on curls are egolifting"
wtf he looked like it was controllable weight with good form why did it snap
straight bar, lack of shoulder activation
preacher bench is dumb
do the biceps heal back to it's normal state or are they lost forever?
It requires surgery and you won't be able to use your arms for months, which will cause atrophy. Afterwards it's going to be months/years of rehab, combined with a dosage of luck deciding other factors such as permanent weakness, tingling, numbness, pain, etc.
It's very likely he'll have life-long trouble with elbow plus shoulder flexion and rotating his forearms.
Thanks for the info, anon. I thought you could just sit it out.
Literal nightmare scenario
ignore the scary rehab part of what
said.
If it ever happens:
>immediately contact a doctor about it because you WILL need surgery to reattach it
>find out if the doctor wants to put you in a cast or a brace
>if he wants to put you in a cast, find another doctor
>a physician that puts you in a brace will give it a week after surgery before putting you in the brace
>week by week, you will visit him and he will adjust your brace, giving you more movement
>you will begin PT the first week you are in the brace
>At 6-8 weeks, depending on your progress, the brace is gone however, the brace could remain just to keep you from hyperextending your arm.
>I wore my brace through 7 weeks but by week 4, I had almost full movement. It was locked just before full extension.
>I did 12 weeks of physical therapy (PT) with daily home exercises that I followed religiously
>After week 12, I was cleared to go back to the gym but to take it easy on the bicep (no heavy curls, no pull ups)
>By month six, it seemed like a lifetime ago it happened as I was already back to "normal" and had my final check up and xray.
Now, there is a nerve that wraps around the arm right at the point it will be reconnected so part of your forearm will be numb or tingly to the touch for a good long while. This is perfectly normal.
Two years from tear and all I have is just an ugly but thin scar. Full mobility doing everything I did prior.
Most fun part of it was for the first 6 weeks of PT, I had a fricking full on QT massaging the scar before every session. She'd lube up her hands with lotion, no gloves, and give a deep tissue massage that almost put me to sleep once.
>immediately contact a doctor about it because you WILL need surgery to reattach it
This is the most important part. The longer you wait, the more scar tissue etc. builds up, the less likely it becomes you will regain normal functions.
Two to three weeks is the maximum time between injury and surgery before complications arise.
Some muscles are worse. A torn pec will try to heal itself by latching on to whatever rib it can reach and attach there, and a surgeon will have to pop it back off. Always take care of yourself and never ego lift.
no matter how many times I see this I still react like it's the first time.
Would love to watch it with audio, looks like it hurt so fricking bad, Why the frick was he doing that many plates on incline, with Larry of all people spotting? LMFAO
This wouldn't have happened if his grip wasn't so moronicly wide
ROM coping is moronic
thanks
you're right, I'm just saying why try that much when you're not ready for it. you can tell right off the bat by the way he's trying to control it, that the weight is too much.
Without Larry he would have died
Everyone tears their biceps doing dumbbell or barbell curls on the fricking preacher bench. STOP DOING PREACHER CURLS.
If you use a bench that is completely 90 degrees vertical up and down, this won't happen because your bicep can rest at the bottom as opposed to being put in that preacher compromised position. So either set up a bench all the way upright and curl, use the other side of the preacher bench that is straight and lean over, do them arnold style leaned over with dumbbell hanging, or just do regular fricking curls with strict form. Preacher bench fricks everyone over all the time. Preacher bicep machine is fine though.
What if you just don't fully extend your arms doing preacher curls?
I can curl almost 2pl8 and my biceps are a little smaller than his. Is it just roids speeding up muscle growth faster than tendon growth?
The movement itself puts the biceps in an extremely vulnerable position when eccentric contraction takes place, especially when you're getting close to locking out your elbows.
The framing of the rest of the body also plays a role. Leaning into it makes it safer, leaning away makes it more dangerous. Not realising this can quickly snap your shit up when you try to squeeze out the final reps.
>not doing forward-leaning cable curls for maximum stretch tension
Preacher Curls have never felt good to me.
why are you braindead on curls and other forms of bodybuilding and watching roided and syntol guys fricking their bodies up?
>mfw i used to ego lift preacher curls and barely get to 8 reps at failure
>mfw i have no face
it could have been me
What should I do if I see some moron tear his biceps doing those?
pull out your camera and upload to IST. maybe even get the /dyel/ general back up for it
Ice, compression, elevation.
I'd go to the doctor immediately as well.
>Why are you still doing preacher curls again?
Preacher curls are supposed to be done slow, controlled and with with light weight. It's like using a scalpel during a surgery and not fricking axe.
Majority of homosexuals will use heavy ass weights to "build" their biceps but none of those twig armed fricks ever tries to do them slow and controlled because it's hard.
I do 30lb dumbbell curls standing, then 25lb hammer preacher curls. I aim for 8-15 reps but the hammers end up 6-8 reps.
I also don't let my arm go fully extended. I stop a couple inches before that.
my forearms have blown up doing this so I am happy.
Kek. This is exactly how you tear them. One day when you accidentally or spontaneously go all the way down with heavy weight you will tear them. Just ask scott Herman fitness pal
do hammer curls standing across your body, ie curl from your side to into your chest
Brachialis booster right there
Because I’m built different and my bicep won’t tear
>both biceps torn
>up to 9 months to fully recover them
>tfw you live alone
>tfw you cannot possibly work or do stuff with your arms such as cooking anymore
at the end you would have a comically large bicep comparing the sizes of both due to muscle atrophy, but it's better to just have one torn
Preacher curls work really well for me but they give me tendonitis which hasn't been an issue for me in several years now when I didn't do them.
would low weight, high reps help avoid a bicep tear?
I thought they were going to grow old and do videos together forever
2008: First video appearance of Tom on the internet.
2013: First video with Tom and Juji appearing in the same video:
2017: First video of Tom involved with Jujimufu's channel (voice/editor/cameraman)
2021: Last video of Tom and Juji together
2021: Juji parts way with Tom
2021: Last video of Tom in existence
cannot wait for the moronic piece of shit to die before 50 so i can shit on his grave.
calm down Tom
Tom is on his way to become a poker millionaire, while Juji's channel has been dying ever since I left. It is clear as day who the creative and directive genius behind his channel really was.
Sad to see Juji threw away his income purely because his "girlfriend" got too jealous.
Well Tom you and Juji probably shouldn't have been doing all that gay sex which made her jealous
hehe
Interesting
He's won less than what he stole from from his and jujis company which is why they broke up wasn't it so I don't think he close to do better off then juji considering should now be getting all the profits from Merch sales, supplement sales, and YouTube/YouTube sponsorships
motherfricker have pissy hands then dont fricking even
I never do those. They seem like a weird movement locking your arms down so you hit nothing but your biceps with your movement which is un natural as can be. I think any anons who like these you should just do them really light for reps as a burn out set to after your main work. Save your arms.
For me, it's the upright, seated simultaneous dumbell curl
I dont do that shit
Juji really went downhill once Tom was thrown out by his ogre wife. You can tell Tom was the one holding back Juji from going deep on drugs. Too bad his shebeast had some kind of hate boner for Tom.
agreed. Tom was the lifeblood of the channel, he came up with all the ideas, he arranged all the travel and meetups, he did all the editing. Once Juji kicked me out the channel went way downhill
So good do I prevent this from happening to me?
*How
Don't lock out
Don't overextend
No underhand grip while your elbow is heading towards locking out.
Biceps and Achilles sometimes just snap and you can't always prevent it. It can be something relatively innocuous like grabbing a grocery bag but unbeknownst to you the tendon is just in bad shape and there is one point of failure. Snap.
My broscience intuition is that if your bicep is unusually sore or tight you should reduce volume and switch to grip-limited stuff like chinups in the hope your brain will turn off your grip if it detects a problem. Then after six weeks gradually go back to more focused bicep work.
AHHH STOP FRICKING POSTING TENDON TEARS I GET IT I WONT EGO LIFT GODDAMNIT
NEVER GIVE UP BRO
YOU CAN TEAR TOO
This is why you don't mix grip.
no it's why you don't pull with your bicep, notice he still completed the lift with a completely torn bicep, it was completely useless and he ruined it anyways
do you think he CHOSE to pull with his bicep? it's a max. he was just going on kneejerk instinct with his brain turned off. that's what can happen.
always flex your tricep instead
that's not gonna work when you do a true 100% max. competitive powerlifters just choose to risk it because most of them are weaker using a hookgrip. a huge amount of famous powerlifters have torn their bicep, they just consider part of the game and don't whine about it. louie tore both, one completely off the bone that he never got fixed.
yeah bro I bet the surgery is totally worth is and never being as strong
yeah? i'm saying it's not worth it unless you're competitive pler
did he actually tear his bicep?
so are you just fricked if you have a bicep tear? or is there hope?
This only happens because of roids and preacher curls being a meme.
Wtf is ego lifting?
thinking or wanting to be stronger than you are and lifting weights accordingly
I know a guy that has 40+ cm biceps and he doesn't do curls, he is 30+ but trains since teens. His height is 180 cm, arms look massive
My height is 173 cm, I do tone of curls and also weighted chin ups my arms max is 38 on a pump and they don't look huge at all.
My arms solely carried by brachiradialis or how you call it, otherwise quite a dyel looking arm, my triceps is not growing either.
Mostly do calisthenics - only for curls i stack up my dumbbells in backpack take a iron stick and do curls, now it is 40 kg on 5-8 reps then I drop weight
I think you can't have a bad physique with great looking arms. I have 33-34 inch waist, although my shoulders slightly broader, doesn't look that æsthetic, honestly. I was thinking that if I have 40cm arms it would make my waist appear smaller.