How do you boys get such a low resting heartrate?
I'm 6'1, low bodyfat, 100km/week between walking and running, but my resting is anywhere between 54 and 60, month to month
homie what? prep time is like 1 minute if you buy canned lentils. I prefer beans though.
If you get bloated, that just means your gut bacteria are fricked from you not eating your veggies.
Frick. I meant to say he said to never eat beans if you want to make gains. Even 2500+ years ago serious athletes knew meat is what makes you fit and strong.
homie their digestive tract is completely different to ours they can digest cellulose because they have the enzymes while we don't. Same reason gorillas get so fricking huge off of greens. They can also extravt like double the calories from a banana
>homie their digestive tract is completely different to ours
Try again.
Please, tell me more about this digestive enzyme that we lack but that pigs have.
>Pigs are built to digest mostly plants
First it was enzymes, now its their gut biome. Which is it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not the same guy. It's the bacteria and those are part of the biome in your digestive tract. Also you guys are complete gays for arguing about this. Eat your meat and vegetables and shut the frick up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's the bacteria and those are part of the biome in your digestive tract
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/nutrition-research-reviews/article/use-of-pigs-as-a-potential-model-for-research-into-dietary-modulation-of-the-human-gut-microbiota/9A2097DC0550A9B551AFFB3CF2AB07DC >Similar to humans, the gut microbiota of pigs mainly consists of the Firmicutes and Bacteroidetes phyla
Woops what's the next excuse
2 years ago
Anonymous
Btfo anti-piggers
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3623846/
Go read Black person
Depending on the source pigs can digest up to 97% of non-starch polysaccharids i.e. cellulose, etc.
Humans can not digest any of it.
Meat, eggs and dairy can be absorbed far better and will leave less waste on top of being more nutritioud. You're all delusional idiots who either can't read the science or have been moralbaited by this weak modern society.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about you read your own source >Some fiber types are more digestible than others, and although they cannot be broken down by mammalian enzymes, they can be fermented by bacteria in the hindgut
This is the exact same digestive process in humans. Any hindgut fermentation of cellulose that pigs can achieve via gut bacteria can also be achieved by humans. We have the same gut physiology as pigs and similar compositions of gut flora.
If pigs could digest plant fibre so easily, then your linked article wouldn't be discussing strategies to improve their digestion such as exogenous enzymes being added to their feed.
Read my posts ITT and find one where I say anything about plants being superior to animal foods for nutrition or digestion. All I'm saying is that humans CAN digest plant matter, even if its not optimal, and correcting the morons who think there is some fundamental difference in the digestive processes of pigs and humans. There isn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Depending on the source pigs can digest up to 97%
Read your own source you Black person >The digestibility of ″fiber″ in swine diets can vary dramatically from 0 to 97% depending upon the source of fiber [10], processing method [11], and concentration in the diet [12,13]. However, many NSP are partially fermentable in the hindgut and can be used to produce volatile fatty acids (VFA) such as acetate, propionate, and butyrate. These VFA are rapidly absorbed and have been shown to supply between 5 and 28% of the maintenance energy requirement of pigs
The above statement applies equally to humans as to swine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are arguing against an actual activist group here on this board that post non stop anti keto threads and try and promote plant based bullshit. The catalogue never goes without 2 to 3 threads at a time and the second they fall off another one appears. Not only that but then the Dunning Krugers come here and start spouting off CICO and THERMODYNAMICS. Some how against all odds there's been a take off in general negative sentiment around the internet about seed oils. This is an absolute disaster for vegan types as basically all the 'food' they consume is loaded with the stuff.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm an activist group member because I'm arguing that pigs and humans have the same digestive system?
Get a grip you fricking weirdo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are there people so moronic here that they think vegetables are bad for you?
Has anyone normal ever eaten a plate of lentils and felt shit afterwards?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go look up plant defence mechanisms, agrochemicals and actual in depth comparisons between nutrient density, nutrient bio availability and the history of many vegetables you are eating and make an informed decision on if vegetables are actually vital for a healthy life. While you're there go look up the randle cycle and n14 15 stable isotope testing. Also go ahead and look up gluconeogenesis too. Maybe you might actually learn something
2 years ago
Anonymous
>While you're there go look up the randle cycle and n14 15 stable isotope testing.
LOL post body
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go ahead explain how it's misconstrued I'll wait
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about you explain how you think it works first so I have something to explain how ur wrong lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not very complicated dude if you eat both of the macronutrients together in high enough amounts they each disrupt the metabolism of the other. The body isn't good at metabolising both fuel sources at the same time. This is like basic exercise science.
I don't even know why it's so controversial with certain people, what kind of moron is eating a diet high in carbs and fat? Other than junk food addicts?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, the plebs should cut out meat and leave it for the real human beings. They should just learn their place and stop complaining when we eat a superior diet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Post your cholesterol and BMI
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/vxZnV8p.jpg
>his protein source has over 2x as many carbohydrates >accuses meat eaters of being fat
535 calories for 100g of protein from chicken breasts. My lower abs are visible unflexed. Are yours?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes. AND I'm at a healthy BMI, AND I'm less likely to die of heart disease or scurvy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Really? Government nutrition authorities say it all the time on account of the obscene amounts of heavy metals in them. For example: you shouldn't eat more than 30g of oats per day because of the lead content.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doubtful. 1277 calories for 100g of protein from lentils. 2554 calories for a decent amount of protein in a day that doesn't contain all essential amino acids. Perhaps that's sufficient if you're an Elliot Page mode 100lb manlet and only need 100g of protein daily. That's fine by me, society needs an underclass. But the weak shouldn't lecture the strong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't "need" 100g of protein a day
2 years ago
Anonymous
And there it is, lol. A weak "male" trying to drag men down to "his" level.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You also don't need your arms and legs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
exactly, i need more
2 years ago
Anonymous
>says "protein everywhere" >posts exclusively foods that have 0g protein
Not sure if mentally ill or just plain moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doctors don't know dick about nutrition. Literally had a doctor tell me that diet has no impact on your health.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"I is more smarterer than duh docturs! Eetin meat iz good 4 me!"
2 years ago
Anonymous
All of that flour and seed oil is closer to your diet than mine, isn't it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Carnivore diet is 50-80% fat, while my diet is less than 10% fat, but keep seething.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> taking roids and still otter mode
2 years ago
Anonymous
Guy looks weak. Who said anything about eating carnivore? It's another moronic extreme diet like veganism that eliminates a different group of essential nutrients.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's the literal opposite. Vegan diet extremely bad for your health. Humans do not have herbivore anatomy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
post body
2 years ago
Anonymous
Correct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>proceeds to prove meat eaters wrong by showing a guy eating something that's 80% plant calories
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he thinks chickens are plants
2 years ago
Anonymous
I suppose this kind of utter moronation explains why you're a vegan. You that amount of chicken meat contains anywhere near the amount of calories in the vegan flour used to bread it, the vegan seed oil soaked up while deep frying it, the gallon of vegan seed oil used to make dipping sauces, and the vegan sugar in the cola combined?
The average American gets less than 20% of his calories from animals and steadily falling. They're practically vegan already.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>yeah dude it's the 200 kcal of chicken breast that makes you fat in KFC not the hyper processed breading deep fried in rancid seed oil and dipped in the puddle of sugary oil they call a sauce
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>lol look at this moron thinking chickens is plants
how do you fried chicken?
>The physiological similarity between humans and pigs in terms of digestive and associated metabolic processes places the pig in a superior position over other non-primate models. Furthermore, the pig is a human-sized omnivorous animal with comparable nutritional requirements, and shows similarities to the human intestinal microbial ecosystem. Also, the pig has been used as a model to assess microbiota-health interactions, since pigs exhibit similar syndromes to humans, such as NEC and partly weanling diarrhoea.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's kind of eerie how similar pigs are to us and I'm not referring just to their digestive track.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Humans = swine/primate hybrid event
2 years ago
Anonymous
Still not a human you mong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>durr it not human so food don't wurk good
Brainlet take
2 years ago
Anonymous
>shows similarities
Not quantified. Please continue to eat like a farm animal. I will continue to eat like the superior being. Hierarchy must return if there is to be harmony in society.
There are a million monogstric animals you c**t. Are our guts the same as grazing horse or an exclusive carnivore owl because we are all monogastric? Pigs get fat from slop because 1. Industrial eugenics and 2. They mostly gain just fat.
t. Vetgay
eucalyptus tree's evolved to be completely unedibe and borderline toxic to most forms of lifes. but smoothbrain koalas were so hellbend to eating them they had to evolve that ungodly digestive track to digest them, which in the end was decent strategy cause they have literally no competition willing to bite into their foodsource.
https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html
http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html#.UdQn3Zz5T1U >This section is a little different from others on this site, because it’s about the findings of my own research. I am a University of Georgia trained geneticist (M.S., Ph.D.) who worked in various genetics laboratories at the University of Georgia and conducted research there from 1989 to 2007. During those years I also taught biology and genetics at UGA. >Instead, as is the case with other later-generation backcross hybrids, the most revealing data is of an anatomical and/or physiological nature. And this is exactly the kind of hybrid that humans seem to be, that is, it appears that humans are the result of multiple generations of backcrossing to the chimpanzee.
>The thing that makes backcross hybrids hard to analyze using genetic techniques is that, in terms of nucleotide sequences, they can differ very little from the parent to which backcrossing occurs. It’s important to realize, however, that a lack of such differences does not prevent them from differing anatomically. Sequence differences are not necessary for anatomical differences to be present. An obvious example of this phenomenon is Down’s syndrome.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Take the pigpill
2 years ago
Anonymous
what exactly would the reason for the two circulatory systems be, and the advantages?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rapid cooling and insulating via blood flow to the skin, rather than relying on a fur layer to maintain temperature.
>Same reason gorillas get so fricking huge off of greens
Wrong. Gorillas get big from greens because they have a very large hindgut/large intestine which harbours large colonies of bacteria that eat the plant matter. As the bacteria die, the gorilla gut absorbs the amino acids and fatty acids that constituted the bacteria.
Pigs, by comparison, have an almost identical digestive arrangement to humans in terms of proportions and functions.
This. Vegans are moronic with the volumes they need to eat to match meat nutrition. OPs pic doesn't even specify whether the lentils are cooked or not. If not then it's even more insane.
Not gonna mass reply to everyone because I'm not a gay like some of you. Gonna give you guys the tl;dr here: yes both humans and pigs can break down NSPs etc. in their digestive tract via fermentation into fatty acids. However this is largely dependant on your individual biome inside your digestive tract and what we find is that in modern western countries people are less and less able to do this efficiently because of modern diets essentially ruining microbial health in inside humans. Ultimately all of this is really just a small factor tho and most of you shouldn't bother with it. Eat more fiber if you run into digestive issues other than that you're probably fine if your diet is mostly whole foods with sufficient fruit/veg which btw isn't as much as you think it needs to be. A banana, cup of mixed greens and some berries each day will give you 99% of what you need out of them.
Anything more than a cup of cooked lentils a day is too much dietary fiber and will make you bloated as all hell. I can speak from experience. They're good for the elderly can't poop well and woman who want to limit what they eat but not for building muscle.
That chart is a complete lie. Pure pseudoscience. The minerals are all in the wrong forms and the vitamins either do not exist (vitamin A) or are in paltry amounts (vit C). Fibre isn't even a nutrient it's just bulk to stop you shitting your brains out from eating all that slop.
Sick and tired of all these israeli diet shills every single day
You don't have all the amino acids in lentils, you'll need to eat as much from another source to make up. But I think that's why the majority of vegans is weak : they're moronic.
Uh, I hit a nerve. You really are insecure about your intelligence. I bet your diet is childish and like shit, like chicken tenders and fries every week/day.
You never had a singular thought deeper and grander than you own little comfort, lmao
They're deficient in cholesterol and lose IQ and develop neurological disorders because of it. Their skin thins, hair and teeth fall out, and they develop dementia.
The shittiest cases of them.
Now do I need to point out how meat eaters literally can't stop turning into diabetes leg stumps? It's about the equivalent statement.
> you can't even verbalize why you """think""" they are moronic
Listen up söyboy, I didn't say they were moronic due to being vegans, I said they went vegans cause they were moronic in the first place.
And I didn't say that you did say that, you complete loser at reading and understanding texts. Are you actually a human if you can't even parse a IST post?
You still haven't answered my question.
They're deficient in cholesterol and lose IQ and develop neurological disorders because of it. Their skin thins, hair and teeth fall out, and they develop dementia.
he says between his 10th and 11th trips to block his toilet with green sludge. They're all perfectly healthy until like clockwork they end up throwing all their pseudo-ethics out the window after 5 years because their teeth are rotting, they're infertile and in digestive pain constantly.
he says between his 10th and 11th trips to block his toilet with green sludge. They're all perfectly healthy until like clockwork they end up throwing all their pseudo-ethics out the window after 5 years because their teeth are rotting, they're infertile and in digestive pain constantly.
Sperm needs fructose to swim, not meat
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, I like the idea of obnoxious betas depriving themselves of essential nutrients. You shouldn't be allowed to try grooming people into your lifestyle, though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes that's why vegans are beacons of fertility and their forums aren't clogged with barren young women lmao. Who do you think you're kidding? At least vegan influencers have enough sense to mask their infertility with the whole depopulation/climate change ideology.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Muh anecdotes
Kek. Meanwhile, in reality.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I used to work with a 5' tall 300lb vegan woman.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure you did. And I won the lottery yesterday.
2 years ago
Anonymous
By that do you mean the years of bugchasing finally paid off?
For the curious, these are the real numbers if we normalize based on 36g of protein: >137.4g of dried lentils / 476.8kcal / DIAAS 0.5-0.7 >calcium 76.5mg >iron 8.9mg >magnesium 105.8mg >potassium 920.6mg >vitamin A 0mg (82.4µg beta-carotene / 6.9µg retinol equivalent) >vitamin C 0mg >fiber 12.0g
And >173.1g of flank steak / 254.4kcal / DIAAS 1.1 >calcium 7.8mg >iron 3.1mg >magnesium 39.3mg >potassium 619.6mg >vitamin A 0mg >vitamin C 0mg >fiber 0g
Good post. Now the same for beef liver, again normalized to 36g >180g serving >243 kcal >calcium 9 mg >iron 8.82mg >magnesium 23.99 mg >potassium 563.4 mg >Vitamin A 8942 mcg (!) >Vitamin C 2.34 mg >fiber 0
And goat liver: >153g serving >243 kcal >calcium 26mg >iron 8.82mg >magnesium 32mg >potassium 464 mg >vitamin A 16,362 mcg (!!!) >vitamin C 18.36mg
I like it
>he eats meat
Post heart (you won't)
Hello fellow meatchad and garminchad
How do you boys get such a low resting heartrate?
I'm 6'1, low bodyfat, 100km/week between walking and running, but my resting is anywhere between 54 and 60, month to month
Frick vegans
> Checked.
Ultra based DUBS.
VEGANSCHIZOS HAVE A HOLE AS BIG AS A ROASTIE READY TO SETTLE.
AMAZINGLY BASED SIR YA'LL FOLX SURE SHOW 'EM
>what is consumption time
>what is preparation time
>what is volume
>what is bloating
I would kill and eat you if given the chance.
>what is organ meat also
>what is aminogram composition of meat vs lentil
>what is antinutrient
meatchad we can't stop winning
Post body
homie what? prep time is like 1 minute if you buy canned lentils. I prefer beans though.
If you get bloated, that just means your gut bacteria are fricked from you not eating your veggies.
>food product heated in polymer-lined can
versus
>fresh food wrapped at room temperature or lower
>beans
Milo of Croton said over 2500 years ago to eat beans if you want to make gains. The man was right.
Frick. I meant to say he said to never eat beans if you want to make gains. Even 2500+ years ago serious athletes knew meat is what makes you fit and strong.
1 minute to cook an entire week of food. Wow, that was hard. You just toss your ingredient in an Instant Pot and forget it until it beeps.
>400g vs 100g
Divide all values on the left by 4 to get a fair comparison
9g
18,5mg
3,25mg
17,75mg
365mg
7,75mg
1,5mg
7,75g
Not only that unfair comparison, it includes the vitamins in the lentils but not the; thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, vitamin B6 and vitamin B12 in meat.
Meat doesn't make me fart for days, lentils do.
you cant actually absorb protein wrapped in cellulose
If that was true then pigs wouldn't be able to grow from the grain sloppa they are fed.
homie their digestive tract is completely different to ours they can digest cellulose because they have the enzymes while we don't. Same reason gorillas get so fricking huge off of greens. They can also extravt like double the calories from a banana
ketolard cope
>homie their digestive tract is completely different to ours
Try again.
Please, tell me more about this digestive enzyme that we lack but that pigs have.
different as in different gut biome. Pigs are built to digest mostly plants. Humans aren't.
>Pigs are built to digest mostly plants
First it was enzymes, now its their gut biome. Which is it?
Not the same guy. It's the bacteria and those are part of the biome in your digestive tract. Also you guys are complete gays for arguing about this. Eat your meat and vegetables and shut the frick up.
>It's the bacteria and those are part of the biome in your digestive tract
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/nutrition-research-reviews/article/use-of-pigs-as-a-potential-model-for-research-into-dietary-modulation-of-the-human-gut-microbiota/9A2097DC0550A9B551AFFB3CF2AB07DC
>Similar to humans, the gut microbiota of pigs mainly consists of the Firmicutes and Bacteroidetes phyla
Woops what's the next excuse
Btfo anti-piggers
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3623846/
Go read Black person
Depending on the source pigs can digest up to 97% of non-starch polysaccharids i.e. cellulose, etc.
Humans can not digest any of it.
Meat, eggs and dairy can be absorbed far better and will leave less waste on top of being more nutritioud. You're all delusional idiots who either can't read the science or have been moralbaited by this weak modern society.
How about you read your own source
>Some fiber types are more digestible than others, and although they cannot be broken down by mammalian enzymes, they can be fermented by bacteria in the hindgut
This is the exact same digestive process in humans. Any hindgut fermentation of cellulose that pigs can achieve via gut bacteria can also be achieved by humans. We have the same gut physiology as pigs and similar compositions of gut flora.
If pigs could digest plant fibre so easily, then your linked article wouldn't be discussing strategies to improve their digestion such as exogenous enzymes being added to their feed.
Read my posts ITT and find one where I say anything about plants being superior to animal foods for nutrition or digestion. All I'm saying is that humans CAN digest plant matter, even if its not optimal, and correcting the morons who think there is some fundamental difference in the digestive processes of pigs and humans. There isn't.
>Depending on the source pigs can digest up to 97%
Read your own source you Black person
>The digestibility of ″fiber″ in swine diets can vary dramatically from 0 to 97% depending upon the source of fiber [10], processing method [11], and concentration in the diet [12,13]. However, many NSP are partially fermentable in the hindgut and can be used to produce volatile fatty acids (VFA) such as acetate, propionate, and butyrate. These VFA are rapidly absorbed and have been shown to supply between 5 and 28% of the maintenance energy requirement of pigs
The above statement applies equally to humans as to swine.
You are arguing against an actual activist group here on this board that post non stop anti keto threads and try and promote plant based bullshit. The catalogue never goes without 2 to 3 threads at a time and the second they fall off another one appears. Not only that but then the Dunning Krugers come here and start spouting off CICO and THERMODYNAMICS. Some how against all odds there's been a take off in general negative sentiment around the internet about seed oils. This is an absolute disaster for vegan types as basically all the 'food' they consume is loaded with the stuff.
I'm an activist group member because I'm arguing that pigs and humans have the same digestive system?
Get a grip you fricking weirdo.
Why are there people so moronic here that they think vegetables are bad for you?
Has anyone normal ever eaten a plate of lentils and felt shit afterwards?
Go look up plant defence mechanisms, agrochemicals and actual in depth comparisons between nutrient density, nutrient bio availability and the history of many vegetables you are eating and make an informed decision on if vegetables are actually vital for a healthy life. While you're there go look up the randle cycle and n14 15 stable isotope testing. Also go ahead and look up gluconeogenesis too. Maybe you might actually learn something
>While you're there go look up the randle cycle and n14 15 stable isotope testing.
LOL post body
Go ahead explain how it's misconstrued I'll wait
How about you explain how you think it works first so I have something to explain how ur wrong lmao
It's not very complicated dude if you eat both of the macronutrients together in high enough amounts they each disrupt the metabolism of the other. The body isn't good at metabolising both fuel sources at the same time. This is like basic exercise science.
I don't even know why it's so controversial with certain people, what kind of moron is eating a diet high in carbs and fat? Other than junk food addicts?
Nah, the plebs should cut out meat and leave it for the real human beings. They should just learn their place and stop complaining when we eat a superior diet.
Post your cholesterol and BMI
>his protein source has over 2x as many carbohydrates
>accuses meat eaters of being fat
535 calories for 100g of protein from chicken breasts. My lower abs are visible unflexed. Are yours?
Yes. AND I'm at a healthy BMI, AND I'm less likely to die of heart disease or scurvy.
Really? Government nutrition authorities say it all the time on account of the obscene amounts of heavy metals in them. For example: you shouldn't eat more than 30g of oats per day because of the lead content.
Doubtful. 1277 calories for 100g of protein from lentils. 2554 calories for a decent amount of protein in a day that doesn't contain all essential amino acids. Perhaps that's sufficient if you're an Elliot Page mode 100lb manlet and only need 100g of protein daily. That's fine by me, society needs an underclass. But the weak shouldn't lecture the strong.
You don't "need" 100g of protein a day
And there it is, lol. A weak "male" trying to drag men down to "his" level.
You also don't need your arms and legs.
exactly, i need more
>says "protein everywhere"
>posts exclusively foods that have 0g protein
Not sure if mentally ill or just plain moronic.
Doctors don't know dick about nutrition. Literally had a doctor tell me that diet has no impact on your health.
>"I is more smarterer than duh docturs! Eetin meat iz good 4 me!"
All of that flour and seed oil is closer to your diet than mine, isn't it?
Carnivore diet is 50-80% fat, while my diet is less than 10% fat, but keep seething.
> taking roids and still otter mode
Guy looks weak. Who said anything about eating carnivore? It's another moronic extreme diet like veganism that eliminates a different group of essential nutrients.
It's the literal opposite. Vegan diet extremely bad for your health. Humans do not have herbivore anatomy.
post body
Correct.
>proceeds to prove meat eaters wrong by showing a guy eating something that's 80% plant calories
>he thinks chickens are plants
I suppose this kind of utter moronation explains why you're a vegan. You that amount of chicken meat contains anywhere near the amount of calories in the vegan flour used to bread it, the vegan seed oil soaked up while deep frying it, the gallon of vegan seed oil used to make dipping sauces, and the vegan sugar in the cola combined?
The average American gets less than 20% of his calories from animals and steadily falling. They're practically vegan already.
>yeah dude it's the 200 kcal of chicken breast that makes you fat in KFC not the hyper processed breading deep fried in rancid seed oil and dipped in the puddle of sugary oil they call a sauce
>>lol look at this moron thinking chickens is plants
how do you fried chicken?
>The physiological similarity between humans and pigs in terms of digestive and associated metabolic processes places the pig in a superior position over other non-primate models. Furthermore, the pig is a human-sized omnivorous animal with comparable nutritional requirements, and shows similarities to the human intestinal microbial ecosystem. Also, the pig has been used as a model to assess microbiota-health interactions, since pigs exhibit similar syndromes to humans, such as NEC and partly weanling diarrhoea.
It's kind of eerie how similar pigs are to us and I'm not referring just to their digestive track.
Humans = swine/primate hybrid event
Still not a human you mong.
>durr it not human so food don't wurk good
Brainlet take
>shows similarities
Not quantified. Please continue to eat like a farm animal. I will continue to eat like the superior being. Hierarchy must return if there is to be harmony in society.
There are a million monogstric animals you c**t. Are our guts the same as grazing horse or an exclusive carnivore owl because we are all monogastric? Pigs get fat from slop because 1. Industrial eugenics and 2. They mostly gain just fat.
t. Vetgay
sneed oils and grains make them fat. you cant fatten pigs on coconut oil and meat
>homie their digestive tract is completely different to ours
Saying so doesn't make it so
>koala
What the frick is going on?
eucalyptus tree's evolved to be completely unedibe and borderline toxic to most forms of lifes. but smoothbrain koalas were so hellbend to eating them they had to evolve that ungodly digestive track to digest them, which in the end was decent strategy cause they have literally no competition willing to bite into their foodsource.
>Human digestive tract is more similar to pig's than it is to orangutans, out fellow great ape.
Fricking kek.
https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html
http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html#.UdQn3Zz5T1U
>This section is a little different from others on this site, because it’s about the findings of my own research. I am a University of Georgia trained geneticist (M.S., Ph.D.) who worked in various genetics laboratories at the University of Georgia and conducted research there from 1989 to 2007. During those years I also taught biology and genetics at UGA.
>Instead, as is the case with other later-generation backcross hybrids, the most revealing data is of an anatomical and/or physiological nature. And this is exactly the kind of hybrid that humans seem to be, that is, it appears that humans are the result of multiple generations of backcrossing to the chimpanzee.
>The thing that makes backcross hybrids hard to analyze using genetic techniques is that, in terms of nucleotide sequences, they can differ very little from the parent to which backcrossing occurs. It’s important to realize, however, that a lack of such differences does not prevent them from differing anatomically. Sequence differences are not necessary for anatomical differences to be present. An obvious example of this phenomenon is Down’s syndrome.
Take the pigpill
what exactly would the reason for the two circulatory systems be, and the advantages?
Rapid cooling and insulating via blood flow to the skin, rather than relying on a fur layer to maintain temperature.
>Same reason gorillas get so fricking huge off of greens
Wrong. Gorillas get big from greens because they have a very large hindgut/large intestine which harbours large colonies of bacteria that eat the plant matter. As the bacteria die, the gorilla gut absorbs the amino acids and fatty acids that constituted the bacteria.
Pigs, by comparison, have an almost identical digestive arrangement to humans in terms of proportions and functions.
Outcome is the same. So what's your point. Humans aren't the most efficient at digesting plants, period.
First you said humans can't digest plants, now you're saying we're just less efficient.
I never said they can't. You need to go work on your reading comprehension, moron.
>I never said they can't
>you cant actually absorb protein wrapped in cellulose
that's why you boil them
Imagine the smell
Frick of c**ts, I am not eating 1200g of lentils just to barely hit 100g of incomplete protein while consuming nearly 1400calories.
I put lean beef in my lentil stew
100g of meat is NOTHING. On the other hand, I'm not going to eat 5 bowls of lentils.
This. Vegans are moronic with the volumes they need to eat to match meat nutrition. OPs pic doesn't even specify whether the lentils are cooked or not. If not then it's even more insane.
>what is bioavailability
Anyway, potassium... why the hell it's so abundant in foods?
>400g vs 100g
Nice bait
Not gonna mass reply to everyone because I'm not a gay like some of you. Gonna give you guys the tl;dr here: yes both humans and pigs can break down NSPs etc. in their digestive tract via fermentation into fatty acids. However this is largely dependant on your individual biome inside your digestive tract and what we find is that in modern western countries people are less and less able to do this efficiently because of modern diets essentially ruining microbial health in inside humans. Ultimately all of this is really just a small factor tho and most of you shouldn't bother with it. Eat more fiber if you run into digestive issues other than that you're probably fine if your diet is mostly whole foods with sufficient fruit/veg which btw isn't as much as you think it needs to be. A banana, cup of mixed greens and some berries each day will give you 99% of what you need out of them.
t. microbiologist
>went and ate a handful of berries
Thank you based microbiologist
>400g. Vs. 100g
Anything more than a cup of cooked lentils a day is too much dietary fiber and will make you bloated as all hell. I can speak from experience. They're good for the elderly can't poop well and woman who want to limit what they eat but not for building muscle.
you need a complete aminoacid profile. Eat both moron
Yes the one with the complete amino acid profile is meat that also doesn't contain anti nutrients.
based. I like veggies too tho, so i will continue to eat them. I have some oats to eat rn
Complete Vs incomplete doesn't matter unless you're literally eating nothing but lentils
>just eat 400g of lentils bro
why are these comparisons always so wack, Just crazy how its 400g vs 100g. insane
Will eat both today. Thanks OP!
They are good together, a beef leek soup with lentils is fricking delicious.
>just eat a pound of lentils to get the same protein as a small piece of steak
1/10 for making me reply
>400g vs 100g
ok
>Vitamin A
lol no. In fact, does any plant contain vitamin A?
Also, many cuts of beef do in fact contain vitamin A.
I eat both.
Lentils' macros are amazing honestly, I would eat them just for the fiber but the protein and everything else is also really good.
Lentils is fricking shit get out of here
That chart is a complete lie. Pure pseudoscience. The minerals are all in the wrong forms and the vitamins either do not exist (vitamin A) or are in paltry amounts (vit C). Fibre isn't even a nutrient it's just bulk to stop you shitting your brains out from eating all that slop.
Sick and tired of all these israeli diet shills every single day
>1 piece of cow can make 100000 different healthy and tasty dishes
>1 bowl of lentils can make you fart
checkmate! lentils in 4x the amount of meat have more nutrients!
Shut up and eat your watercress cube!
fake chart
all vegans do is lie lie lie
You don't have all the amino acids in lentils, you'll need to eat as much from another source to make up. But I think that's why the majority of vegans is weak : they're moronic.
They have a higher IQ. You have one of about =<100.
You are actually moronic if you can't even verbalize why you """think""" they are moronic.
Go stick some onions sprout up your ass you moronic Black person troony.
Uh, I hit a nerve. You really are insecure about your intelligence. I bet your diet is childish and like shit, like chicken tenders and fries every week/day.
You never had a singular thought deeper and grander than you own little comfort, lmao
The shittiest cases of them.
Now do I need to point out how meat eaters literally can't stop turning into diabetes leg stumps? It's about the equivalent statement.
And I didn't say that you did say that, you complete loser at reading and understanding texts. Are you actually a human if you can't even parse a IST post?
You still haven't answered my question.
They're deficient in cholesterol and lose IQ and develop neurological disorders because of it. Their skin thins, hair and teeth fall out, and they develop dementia.
>still haven't died
he says between his 10th and 11th trips to block his toilet with green sludge. They're all perfectly healthy until like clockwork they end up throwing all their pseudo-ethics out the window after 5 years because their teeth are rotting, they're infertile and in digestive pain constantly.
Keep working at it
U mad?
Sperm needs fructose to swim, not meat
No, I like the idea of obnoxious betas depriving themselves of essential nutrients. You shouldn't be allowed to try grooming people into your lifestyle, though.
Ah yes that's why vegans are beacons of fertility and their forums aren't clogged with barren young women lmao. Who do you think you're kidding? At least vegan influencers have enough sense to mask their infertility with the whole depopulation/climate change ideology.
>Muh anecdotes
Kek. Meanwhile, in reality.
I used to work with a 5' tall 300lb vegan woman.
Sure you did. And I won the lottery yesterday.
By that do you mean the years of bugchasing finally paid off?
> you can't even verbalize why you """think""" they are moronic
Listen up söyboy, I didn't say they were moronic due to being vegans, I said they went vegans cause they were moronic in the first place.
I know these are bait images but do vegans really not know how volatile vitamin C is? It gets absolutely destroyed when cooked
>Comparing 400g to 100g
Veganshills should be killed
>400gms
>100gms
The reason is I want to
That picture is also deceptive hence lies
>Needing a reason to do stuff
I'm not an NPC. I do it because I want it. Don't care what you think, don't even think about you at all.
>But the planet!
Exists to serve the needs of the human race and for no other reason. Simple as.
Have you ever actually eaten 400g of (dry weight) lentils anon?
Ok, now show calorie counts.
>4x the mass to BARELY exceed the nutritional content.
>plant protein
For the curious, these are the real numbers if we normalize based on 36g of protein:
>137.4g of dried lentils / 476.8kcal / DIAAS 0.5-0.7
>calcium 76.5mg
>iron 8.9mg
>magnesium 105.8mg
>potassium 920.6mg
>vitamin A 0mg (82.4µg beta-carotene / 6.9µg retinol equivalent)
>vitamin C 0mg
>fiber 12.0g
And
>173.1g of flank steak / 254.4kcal / DIAAS 1.1
>calcium 7.8mg
>iron 3.1mg
>magnesium 39.3mg
>potassium 619.6mg
>vitamin A 0mg
>vitamin C 0mg
>fiber 0g
Good post. Now the same for beef liver, again normalized to 36g
>180g serving
>243 kcal
>calcium 9 mg
>iron 8.82mg
>magnesium 23.99 mg
>potassium 563.4 mg
>Vitamin A 8942 mcg (!)
>Vitamin C 2.34 mg
>fiber 0
And goat liver:
>153g serving
>243 kcal
>calcium 26mg
>iron 8.82mg
>magnesium 32mg
>potassium 464 mg
>vitamin A 16,362 mcg (!!!)
>vitamin C 18.36mg
Vegtrannies BTFO yet again. Meatchads can't stop winning.
I fricking love pigs liver. Natures vitamin pill.
>open thread
>everyone making claims
>no one posting body
>close thread
>plant protein absorbs at around 50% compared to animal protein
>plant protein lacks essencial amino acids to build muscle
frick you